(January 2, 2016 at 1:04 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Want me to believe in disembodied consciousness? Measure it in a lab. Get numbers on energy output. Communicate with it, record it, videotape it, and replicate the experiment with other disembodied entities.
Want me to believe in NDE's? Have one yourself, hooked up to machines that will measure your brain function. When your brain function ceases, somehow record the experience you're having.
Want me to believe in OBE's? Easy. Travel tonight and tell me what is on the shelf in my headboard. Or even easier: telepathy!! What a piece-of-cake easily provable phenomenon that nobody has ever been able to prove. Pity, since it is the basis of prayer, don't you think?
Pick one, pick any of them. Provide empirical evidence. Show measurements, quantifiable, verifiable, replicate-able data.
That is the only "argument" I will accept. Not flights of fancy, or musings on how the universe and the human body are alike (yawn - seriously?) or chakras or energy fields or universal consciousness or little grey aliens. If you can't provide hard data, you're just wasting your time.
Actually i would waste my time if i would call a plumber to fix my electrical wiring
or using physical science to investigate what is outside the physical world.
I know some idiots around who still believe that by using physical science they may
be able to understand what is not physical but what can i do.
The universe is full of idiots.
