(January 3, 2016 at 12:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Words like evidence, proofs, knowledge, signs, existed way before scientific method.
Of course. After the scientific method, there was a mechanism to actually prove if they are justified or not.
Quote:Knowledge is simply warranted justified belief. Sure knowledge is higher then that.
And the fact remains, most theists are fine with weak justification for their beliefs.
Quote:Atheists want to define words to suit their Agenda. They define "faith" in a way that makes it unreasonable to have.
The word "faith" has several definitions. The one that theists tend to use is "belief without evidence". If that is the way they are using the term, their belief is unreasonable by definition.
What I find interesting is, most theists do not apply faith for any other claim besides their god beliefs. Ask a theist why they don't believe in: bigfoot, alien abductions, dowsing, telekinesis, Ley Lines, etc, etc, and vast majority will reject them based on the lack of evidence. But when we do the same for your god beliefs, we are the ones that are missing something.
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You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.