(January 9, 2016 at 1:59 am)yukapuka Wrote:(January 8, 2016 at 5:25 pm)mr_j936 Wrote: edit: not sure why my post did not show
I did not say Muhammad only married virgins, in fact I did not mention virginity in any way, that's not something I would think about I know he married 6 years old onwards. He married safia after murdering her family, perhaps you can tell us a bit about that.
Also if people who knew him personally began to doubt him in the end, why should anyone a thousand years later believe in him?
Taking care of your breath to please the ladies is not a humanist thing. And marrying the widows of men you conveniently sent to war to die on your behalf is not a thoughtful thing either.
About the heir are you referring to Ali? I would rather not go into that debate, blood has been spilled over it and it isn't over.
Finally, Hitler had a dog, called Blondy, and he so loved that dog and treated it well, he also treated his personal staff like family and was so kind to them. Does that make him a good man? Most Muslims think highly of him so I probably should not have asked that.
this is where your wrong
if you cant see the distinction between hitler and Muhammad(PBUH) then you cant see the reality of life
hitler doesnt have followers, hitler doesnt have a religion, hitler is made fun of by everyone, hitler is criticised and hitler in regards to what he left behind is all negative
Muhammad(PBUH) is the complete opposite to hitler in every regard
Also the people who doubted him in the end was not EVERY person, but the people who lusted after power, the ones who seen everything he established, an empire like the arabs have never seen before , he created a government with huge income, he created an army to defend the government, a social life, a law system, order, government positions, democracy, states, hierarchical structure, he brought together ALL of the tribes, he abolished slavery and racism, he created equality and honor for women, the Islamic world spread from one side of the world to the other which he united all the Arabs, now he had a nation that was able to be on par with the romans and began to communicate with them etc
something the arabs have NEVER seen before, and when they seen it all, their eyes fell out of their heads, they wanted to rule , they wanted to be SOMEONE etc and they knew how gentle caring man he was, they knew they could easily scam him due to his honest nature, and knew he wasnt going to fight them or attack them or even embarrass them in public by calling them this or that etc they took advantage of his gentleness so hence they said he was losing his mind because death was overtaking him so they ignored all his calls to leave a written heir so that it is undisputed etc
I was not saying Mohammad was like Hitler. I was merely pointing out that the fact that he loved children and his women does not mean that he is fit to be as a role model for eternity to come(Muslims will always look up to him now and till the end of times) It also does not mean that everything he did must be good and nice since he had the mentionedd qualities.