RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 9, 2016 at 5:07 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2016 at 5:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No, you weren't...you didn't even attempt to. You stumbled around with the first three letters of the alphabet because you have no fucking clue what you're doing in a rational conversation.
I accepted the premise that a god that creates morality can make torture moral..this is the premise you offered. Your comments do not follow from that premise, this is not open to debate. If you did not wish for this to be included in your argument...then try again..and leave this line out, huh?
Quote:The statement that it can't be morally/good in any possible world to torture a being for no crime intensely forever and ever...doesn't follow from the statement,Bingo...a bare assertion.
Quote: It's stated by itself but if that is the contention, we can get into a dialogue about that. If a hypothetical eternal being can decide that to be it's morality, why can't we?I don't know...you tell me....I have to be honest with you, it seems that we not only can decide upon morality, but that we do and have done.
Quote:So do you believe we can make it so that it's good for us to torture kids for no crime, put acid on them? No. Can you even say 100% we can't decide this. I believe so.It's not an issue of belief, nor is my belief required for people to do precisely that.
Quote: But it you accept that premise, and the "tautology", then it follows it's impossible for a Creator to create morality while it didn't always exist.
I accepted the premise that a god that creates morality can make torture moral..this is the premise you offered. Your comments do not follow from that premise, this is not open to debate. If you did not wish for this to be included in your argument...then try again..and leave this line out, huh?
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