One point I'd like to poke in again in responce to Fr0d0. You said when we die we live on in the memories of others and in the articles we leave behind.
Well we know that's not really true without twisting words around quite a bit don't we. However there are two seperate things to be said about this kind of statement, first is the point that we live on in others memory so I'll do it first.
Those who were alive when you died will remember you but, they won't likely go around telling stories of you. So even if this point were true your legacy is short lived indeed. However, their memory of you is also simply not you. Theres no thought or action and to top it all off no two people remember you the same way. What people remember is the experiences they had where you happened to be present as well so, their memories of you are biased from their viewpoint and do not reflect who you really are. They instead reflect the person that they thought you were.
The second part of the statement is that we live on in the artifacts we leave behind. Again this is not life by any definition but, your onto something else here. As we live, even a short or insignifigant life as most do, we affect things and cause change. People may act differently when we are around which changes the course of history. However this all comes into the last words of the last point, everything does this it's nothing special about us. And the things we leave behind are quickly lost to the sands of time as other people continue to live and affect the world without you.
I want to be clear on my intention of this post, I'm not trying to shoot ya down or anything. I just want to put another spin on the concept of living on without living, and I'm aware that you are probably aware of what I'm saying and using the phraise more to show that you don't hold crazy ideas about the afterlife.
What I do find rather interesting is now it seems you're saying you're christian without beleiving in a literal heaven (hell aside for now, it's a whole different point) while previously defined a christian as one who follows christ. I can accept that last bit but, christ spoke of heaven and his father and following him was the path to that place. So is it that you follow christ, or that you simply have good morals and are giving the credit elsewhere?
Well we know that's not really true without twisting words around quite a bit don't we. However there are two seperate things to be said about this kind of statement, first is the point that we live on in others memory so I'll do it first.
Those who were alive when you died will remember you but, they won't likely go around telling stories of you. So even if this point were true your legacy is short lived indeed. However, their memory of you is also simply not you. Theres no thought or action and to top it all off no two people remember you the same way. What people remember is the experiences they had where you happened to be present as well so, their memories of you are biased from their viewpoint and do not reflect who you really are. They instead reflect the person that they thought you were.
The second part of the statement is that we live on in the artifacts we leave behind. Again this is not life by any definition but, your onto something else here. As we live, even a short or insignifigant life as most do, we affect things and cause change. People may act differently when we are around which changes the course of history. However this all comes into the last words of the last point, everything does this it's nothing special about us. And the things we leave behind are quickly lost to the sands of time as other people continue to live and affect the world without you.
I want to be clear on my intention of this post, I'm not trying to shoot ya down or anything. I just want to put another spin on the concept of living on without living, and I'm aware that you are probably aware of what I'm saying and using the phraise more to show that you don't hold crazy ideas about the afterlife.
What I do find rather interesting is now it seems you're saying you're christian without beleiving in a literal heaven (hell aside for now, it's a whole different point) while previously defined a christian as one who follows christ. I can accept that last bit but, christ spoke of heaven and his father and following him was the path to that place. So is it that you follow christ, or that you simply have good morals and are giving the credit elsewhere?
