RE: What is 'objective' value?
January 12, 2016 at 10:00 am
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2016 at 10:11 am by robvalue.)
Irrational: I agree. It's like the nonsense where people say things are good because God says they are good. The word becomes meaningless. It's an attempt to put in a proxy word in a tautology which happens to be very loaded.
"It's valuable because God made it to be valuable."
You can insert any other word you like in that sentence and it is still a tautology. If the only definition is circular, it's of no use outside of that sentence. It has no connection to the general usage of the word "value". It's a fallacious word game.
If it simply has value to God, then that is entirely subjective. It doesn't mean any other thinking agent has to agree with or respect that opinion or that god's opinion is always correct. In what way does it have value to God, that isn't circular, anyway? He likes it? Not so much really considering the 2.5M he kills or orders to be killed in the bible. I'd call that a character who cares very little about it.
If I "should" value it, then again, that is an opinion. It's not like the mass of an object which is the same regardless of anyone's opinion of it. If it represents a very specific measurement like mass, then I would love to know what it is. If it's just measuring whether God decided it was valuable, again it's a tautology of definition.
If we're just talking about some abstract deity, then who the hell knows what it does and doesn't value? More importantly, why should I care? He could be weird.
"It's valuable because God made it to be valuable."
You can insert any other word you like in that sentence and it is still a tautology. If the only definition is circular, it's of no use outside of that sentence. It has no connection to the general usage of the word "value". It's a fallacious word game.
If it simply has value to God, then that is entirely subjective. It doesn't mean any other thinking agent has to agree with or respect that opinion or that god's opinion is always correct. In what way does it have value to God, that isn't circular, anyway? He likes it? Not so much really considering the 2.5M he kills or orders to be killed in the bible. I'd call that a character who cares very little about it.
If I "should" value it, then again, that is an opinion. It's not like the mass of an object which is the same regardless of anyone's opinion of it. If it represents a very specific measurement like mass, then I would love to know what it is. If it's just measuring whether God decided it was valuable, again it's a tautology of definition.
If we're just talking about some abstract deity, then who the hell knows what it does and doesn't value? More importantly, why should I care? He could be weird.
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