(January 13, 2016 at 12:47 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Um, they didn't actually die. Anyone can testify to anything, doesn't make it true.
(January 13, 2016 at 12:48 pm)Vic Wrote: The problem with Near Death Experiences is that they don't tell us anything about death. Otherwise they'd just be called Death Experiences.
1 DEATH
a : a permanent cessation of all vital functions : the end of life — compare brain death
b : an instance of dying <a disease causing many deaths>
My italics.
(Reasonably sure someone else said it first, most likely Stimbo, but I think it's very well put so I'm stealing it)
Just for clarity's sake, what do you call it when your heart stops beating and you stop breathing for an extended period of time?
And isn't this why they're called "NEAR-death experiences" instead of "death experiences"?
Finally, assuming the stories is true for the sake of argument, did Jesus raise the dead when Lazarus didn't actually die since he was only in the tomb for four days?
And would you say that Jesus didn't actually die since he was seen again three days (technically 48 hours and some change) later?
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How much time has to elapse before someone is dead? Or is it the case that if they are EVER revived then they didn't actually die?
Sounds like the true Scot fallacy...no "truly dead person" ever comes back to life.
