For those who want proof of the exodus

[Drich]

Wake up sport. You may own a small family farm and can afford to charge a premium for your 'organically grown cabbage' (or whatever product you grow/sell) so you can afford to give your workers a rate comparable to $8.00 per hour burger flipper. (Remember you are bragging about being on the high end of the pay scale.)

Organic cabbage?  I don;t grow organic anything.....I'm not a scammer, remember, lol?  I'm actually -not- at the high end of the pay scale for my model.  If anything...slightly below average.

I am pointing out a federally mandated and protected slave class, that other people other companies do not have to pay well. It's great that you pay as much or even more than minimum wage, but know it is not required in the field of work. If it is not required do you really think that a company who sells their cabbage  for 50% less than what you do whole sale will pay their workers the same amount of money you pay your guys?

-and I;m pointing out that I neither engage in nor condone their model..which is all that I need to point out to put the lie to your claim utterly and completely.

Especially if the government does not mandate it?

You don't know what the government actually does or doesn't mandate, a fact made explicitly clear in your previous comments.  

I have work in refrigeration for the last 24 years.

Is that what they call it at your McDonalds when you grab the eggs out of the walkin?

I own a company who builds and sell coolers freezers for storage and the refrigerated trucks/vans that deliver this product all of the country. as a result I have traveled all over the country selling and installing equipment to big corporate farms and micro farmers, and I have seen all of this first hand from the ground all the way through production and final delivery to market. for just about everything one can buy at a supermarket. I have seen the same pattern repeated over and over and over again. Why? It's The only way everyone can eat affordably. That is to have caged eggs, 'enriched' beef/meats and assembly line produce where cost is cut at every corner. Labor being the greatest expense, and easiest to cut.

My food costs less to the consumer than the wholesale products and yet I still make a better roi.  Use your business acumen to figure out why that might be, and how it..again...puts the lie to another of your claims.

And even that is too much. That is why we now have stores like Aldi who get their food from countries who have absolutely no restrictions on labor and according to that USA today article still own chattle slaves. just so we can have more affordable food.

Someone else's predatory business model has what to do with me and what I condone, again?  

You are a rare exception and not the rule.

I'm neither, actually.  

So the short answer why do I point to a worst case? Because that is what this government allows, and I see it abused (people getting paid less/worked more) But again I also see the need. Like you said we all have to eat. Their is no way to feed everyone unless we have slaves doing the stuff slaves have always done. We have yet to create a society on mass not dependent on slavery in one form or another.

You point to a worst case because you -are- a worst case....and familiarity breeds comfort.  What the fuck is the problem here Drich?  You condone slavery and I do not...why are you incapable of accepting that?  Why is it that you need everyone to be like you?


Holy shit...I think we've found your shame.......and I was almost certain it didn't exist.

brother unless you grow your cars, trucks, electronic devices, meats and produce, and all the other material that make your life possible.. You do indeed condone slavery. Because even if the products you buy are assembled/produced in a country with fair wage practices, your not going to be able to account for all the low cost parts that go into a given device.
Again, you would not be able to afford to live if you paid everyone a fair living wage for every aspect and all the little parts and pieces that go into that life unless you yourself do not pull directly from the ground. (were able to source it at little to no cost.)