(January 15, 2016 at 3:47 pm)athrock Wrote:Your anti-intellectualism seems a bit uncanny, IMO.(January 15, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Me thinks you do not know the definition of anti-theism.
Even if the Bible were completely true, and the god depicted in the stories, actually existed, Rhytm (and I) would still be an anti-theist.
Accepting that the Bible god existed, and the Bible stories are true, does not automatically mean that a former atheist would worship said god, or believe that religion is a good thing.
Quite the opposite. One of the worst possibilities I could think of, would be if the psychopathic, genocidal, slavery condoning, eternal punishment for finite crime, Bible god actually existed.
Actually, what you have written is a very acceptable definition of anti-theism.
So, the situation appears to be something like this:
We don't think that God exists; in fact, we're pretty sure he doesn't though we can't actually prove that, of course. But even if he did, we wouldn't want to obey, serve, worship, love or follow him because we believe him to be unworthy of those things.
Unfortunately, that's not much of a justification for being an atheist (much less and anti-theist) because there are plenty of options/reason for being theists without referencing the Judeo-Christian scriptures at all.
So, your anti-theism seems a bit myopic, IMO.
He gave you a perfectly rational definition of his beliefs and you responded with bullshit subjective idiocy.
What's the point of coming on a forum for intellectuals, or even people you think are wrong, and proceeding to absolutely murder any attempts at having a rational and logical discussion by professing your ignorant subjective theistic notions, in attempt to pass them off as objective.
How can you seriously fucking sit there and claim there is no justification for being an atheist in a forum dedicated to atheism. Even i'll fucking admit there's justification for belonging to any religion, just not very good justification. And that's the difference between you and I, my stances are not bullshit biased opinionated ones, I don't have an agenda to abide by never saying anything remotely straying from the religion i'm a part of, like you, I will answer questions based on logic, not attempt to match my opinions to what I want to be true no matter what the cost as you, yourself, have repeatedly done.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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