(January 16, 2016 at 5:46 pm)ktrap Wrote:(January 16, 2016 at 4:02 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Why does life have to have a meaning beyond what we provide for it? And what value is there in wish casting for an existence beyond death?
You seem to think that you're some sort of deep thinker because you have an imaginary friend based on an intentionally vague description found in books written by ancient peasants and vague, never substantiated promises of an eternal afterlife. Which is completely laughable.
If you want deep thought, you need to meet us halfway. So far, the theists who attempt to apologize are lacking in that department. You need more than special pleading, conflating assertions with arguments, utter reliance on tu quoque, and insults.
But, I'm sure you'll just continue calling everyone who disagrees with you stupid. That seems to be the most common behavior of the apologists here. Sound and fury signifying nothing because they have nothing else to provide.
Come on !!! Man you don't even try. You are telling me that you never felt or thought about your existence and how it might fit into this this world. For you it is just a fluke!!! Would rather have your mother abort the pregnancy than give you life? Would rather be born somewhere else? Everyone (hopefully) goes thru some form of questioning about life in general. No you don't have to come to the same conclusion as I do, but to play dumb like say there is nothing after death or there is no meaning of life is just being lazy.
Ah, yes, another theist raging against a strawman they created from things I didn't say. How quaint.
Of course I asked myself those questions. Why am I me and not someone else, and so on. Ultimately I decided it was largely based on luck. My parents decided to fuck at a certain point, a certain sperm fertilized a certain egg, and I popped out about 9 months later.
But, you see, the circumstances surrounding my birth are boring. Yes, me being a white, straight, male American gives me certain advantages over some other people, but it's not like that's a rare enough occurrence to really take note of. So, I don't really care about why I exist, or why I'm not an Ethiopian, or any of that kind of thing because I can't change any of that. It's meaningless to dwell on it, and I have better things to do with my time than mentally masturbate over the idea of discrete consciousness. And I see nothing miraculous about being one of the over 7 billion humans on this planet. Amazing, when thinking about the size and scale of the universe? Sure. But I'm sure I'll be forgotten by history shortly after I'm dead, like most people. Which is why I try to fill my life with doing things, visiting places, spending time with loved ones, and creating new memories. I don't want to squander the only time I reasonably can predict I have left.
Quote:There is no wonder that Modern Atheism is consider by most as useless. At least the atheists in ancient times, especially in the east, would have not thrown out the possibility of one's consciousnesses to continue after death. Atheists today, especially the ones in the West, are just vegetables
When have I ever completely denied the possibility of consciousness continuing after death? Shit, when have I ever completely denied the possibility of a god existing? I don't believe in either due to a lack of credible evidence. I reserve the right to change my mind in light of new evidence. And no, anecdotes aren't evidence.
And I'm still waiting for you to dazzle us with your implied brilliance. So far I am left wanting.
Also, just so you know, I don't live my life for your approval. I couldn't care less if you think I'm stupid or lazy or whatever. Unlike a lot of theists, peer pressure tactics don't work on me. I answer you because it amuses me to do so, nothing more.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"