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(February 14, 2011 at 5:57 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Welcome to the forums Speakeasy! I love that joke, it is hilarious. I was a believer most of life and only the last few years solidly rejected the idea of God/god or gods.
(February 14, 2011 at 5:12 pm)Speakeasy Wrote: ...I've never felt in my life that the burden of proof lay with me...
Well if you are an agnostic atheist who simply rejects god then it is easy to avoid that burden, it is only when you make a positive claim that you shoulder any burden of proof.
(February 14, 2011 at 5:12 pm)Speakeasy Wrote: ...When your dead, your dead, dead. Not like not dead. Your really dead. All of our families who have fallen are gone...
Oops, burden shouldered. Enjoy your time here it is a great place to hang out with cool mix of atheists and theists.
Ok, so I have to shoulder the burden of my claim that when your dead, your dead. I'll give it a shot, but trying to convince this group is about as crazy as "a football bat".
Let's say that I choose to stalk and kill the neighbor's boy for his constant attempts at trying to corrupt my daughter. Lets say that after weeks of planning and preparation I finally get my hands around his throat and strangle the life out of this terd. Lets say that I bury his corpse in my back yard where nobody will even think to look. I'm fairly convinced that I might get away with it. I'm certainly not too worried about his ghost wispering to his mother the story of what happened to him. CSI might catch me but it won't be the one who is dead letting the cat out of the bag.
Now, it is my contention that murderers thoughout time have tested this theory and have not been able to disprove it. "Dead men tell no tales." right? Is that not evidence?
But what if spirits do exist but they can't interact with this world? That would fit your scenario and also go against your conclusion that dead people stop existing.
I'll let you in on a secret, there is no way to falsify this statement: We live on after we die as undetectable spirits forever and ever.
It is just as unfalsifiable as this one: God exists
I as an agnostic simply reject ideas that can't be proven.
Enjoy your time here it is a great place to hang out with cool mix of atheists and theists.