RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
January 25, 2016 at 3:17 pm
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2016 at 3:33 pm by Sheed1980.)
(January 25, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Brian37 Wrote:I agree with u my friend. It's called free will the God given right(my belief of course) to do as u wish in this temporary life we live now. Which also helps to determine what permanent life we will have in the Hereafter. I don't think ur attacking me personally. We are 2 adults sharing our differences in opinion about a matter. So just because u don't believe in what I do, I don't see it as ur attacking me personally. Vice versa I don't intend on attacking u personally when I don't follow ur belief. Now I have mentioned on several responses, so I'm not sure to exactly who, but I'll ask u this. First off how many different examples of a particular subject would u personally need to see in order to say to urself "This is more than just a coincidence, this is a fact"? Secondly how many different facts do u need b4 u believe it as true? And to answer ur question about what I fear, it is the wrath of Allah, and His punishment of Hellfire, which is very descriptive in the Qur'an, and also losing His guidance in my life. These a few things I fear about my Lord(January 25, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: Different people sometimes ask the same questions that were already asked. Just because it's a different person doesn't mean I'm going to change my answers. So I am sorry u feel this way that u do towards my belief. But just as I can't change u, there is nothing u can say to change me as wellI feel sorry for you that you are so closed minded and so narcissistic about an old book of myth. What scares you so much that you feel the need to cling to an old book and claims of sky heros? I live my life fine without belief in fictional beings.
Now how selfish of you to think my rejection of your religion and god belief is a personal attack on you. You need to learn the difference between your rights, and the separate issue of having the ability to demonstrate what you claim is evidence based and credible beyond your own personal bias.
You certainly by law in the secular west don't have to change your answers. Neither do Christians or Jews or Hindus. They have as much evidence for their claims as you do for yours.
The earth is 4 billion years old. The universe is 14 billion years old. Those are scientific facts not up for debate. Religion started in an age of scientific ignorance. It was understandable people made bad guesses and started religions as a result of their scientific ignorance, but we know better now.
You can make claims about your book and about your hero all you want but nobody is under any obligation by law to buy your arguments, and most certainly not under any obligation to refrain from telling you why your claims are wrong.
LEARN the difference between legal human rights, and the separate issue of being able to prove what you claim through an unbias neutral process, which you are NOT using. None of us here are treating you differently than any other person with a different book or different god claim. Get in line, take a number.