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Really, Germany?
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RE: Really, Germany?
Quote:Yes, but it does not lessen guilt of perpetrators. 
Yes, it does in fact. If you understand why someone is doing what they're doing you become better equipped to handle it and prevent it from happening again, and that's all that matters. Guilt is irrelevant.

Quote:Obviously it isn't fault of people born long after. But if not Germans (and other nations too) then who is responsible for Shoah? History itself? Spirit of the times?

Not all Germans were guilty of killing or being accessory to it, yes. But indifference which was more widespread than hate also don't absolve of guilt. Here I'm in agreement with Ian Kershaw and his words: The road to Auschwitz was built by hate, but paved with indifference.
There are a lot of factors involved, including basic human nature, as I pointed out earlier, and charismatic leaders to take advantage of it. It's a very complex issue. But blaming everyone for what happened is simply idiotic and will get you nowhere even if you were right about looking at it like that, which you're not.
Quote:It's more about justice and accountability than law itself I would say. I kinda think that man in question should be persecuted, but if he really has dementia then there is no point in doing this I would say.
That is what law means, essentially. You would have to be more of an expert on law precisely to understand how and why such decisions are made. Presumably they're not entirely irrational, no matter the outcome. You can have your uninformed opinion on the matter, of course, but that's all it is. Don't try and add more credibility to it when there is none to be had. It's not as clear-cut as that.
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Really, Germany? - by Minimalist - January 19, 2016 at 1:21 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 19, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by CapnAwesome - January 19, 2016 at 2:11 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 19, 2016 at 2:33 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by CapnAwesome - January 19, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 19, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Minimalist - January 19, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by account_inactive - January 19, 2016 at 2:34 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 19, 2016 at 3:07 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Red_Wind - January 19, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Mr Greene - January 19, 2016 at 8:35 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Aoi Magi - January 19, 2016 at 9:12 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 19, 2016 at 9:20 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by abaris - January 19, 2016 at 9:24 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Anomalocaris - January 19, 2016 at 10:09 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by CapnAwesome - January 19, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 19, 2016 at 3:48 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by abaris - January 19, 2016 at 4:07 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by CapnAwesome - January 19, 2016 at 5:26 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 19, 2016 at 6:16 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by abaris - January 19, 2016 at 7:28 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 19, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 19, 2016 at 8:59 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Brian37 - January 19, 2016 at 10:08 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by CapnAwesome - January 19, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Jenny A - January 19, 2016 at 4:29 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by account_inactive - January 19, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Brian37 - January 19, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 20, 2016 at 3:53 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 20, 2016 at 3:59 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 20, 2016 at 4:02 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 20, 2016 at 4:12 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 20, 2016 at 4:18 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Brian37 - January 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 20, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Brian37 - January 21, 2016 at 5:31 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 22, 2016 at 8:22 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 23, 2016 at 2:33 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - January 28, 2016 at 6:56 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 28, 2016 at 9:57 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 29, 2016 at 4:35 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 1, 2016 at 3:11 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 2, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 2, 2016 at 9:26 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 3, 2016 at 3:27 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - February 3, 2016 at 3:39 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 29, 2016 at 5:22 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 30, 2016 at 4:10 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by downbeatplumb - January 30, 2016 at 7:44 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 31, 2016 at 3:08 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by downbeatplumb - January 31, 2016 at 6:22 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - January 31, 2016 at 6:56 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by abaris - February 1, 2016 at 3:49 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by downbeatplumb - February 2, 2016 at 1:46 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 1, 2016 at 3:22 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 2, 2016 at 8:43 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - January 29, 2016 at 3:26 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 28, 2016 at 9:49 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Minimalist - January 19, 2016 at 7:13 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Minimalist - January 19, 2016 at 9:44 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Reforged - January 19, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Minimalist - January 19, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Thumpalumpacus - January 20, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 20, 2016 at 4:23 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 20, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 20, 2016 at 4:52 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by ignoramus - January 20, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 20, 2016 at 5:08 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by abaris - January 20, 2016 at 10:15 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Dystopia - January 20, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by abaris - January 20, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by abaris - January 20, 2016 at 2:07 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 20, 2016 at 11:11 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Jenny A - January 20, 2016 at 11:22 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 21, 2016 at 5:13 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 21, 2016 at 5:22 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Jenny A - January 29, 2016 at 5:42 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 29, 2016 at 5:51 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - January 29, 2016 at 6:37 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 7:31 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - January 29, 2016 at 7:48 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 8:07 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - January 29, 2016 at 8:27 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 8:35 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - January 29, 2016 at 8:44 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 8:54 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - January 29, 2016 at 9:00 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 9:03 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 29, 2016 at 6:29 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 7:26 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 29, 2016 at 7:40 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 7:43 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 29, 2016 at 7:22 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 7:35 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 7:45 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 29, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 8:11 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 29, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Iroscato - January 29, 2016 at 9:10 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 9:11 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Iroscato - January 29, 2016 at 9:21 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Ivan Denisovich - January 29, 2016 at 9:26 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Iroscato - January 29, 2016 at 9:28 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Excited Penguin - January 29, 2016 at 2:42 pm
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 30, 2016 at 5:59 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Bob Kelso - January 30, 2016 at 8:02 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 30, 2016 at 8:12 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Bob Kelso - January 31, 2016 at 12:09 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 31, 2016 at 6:52 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Alex K - January 31, 2016 at 7:41 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Minimalist - January 31, 2016 at 1:56 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by The Grand Nudger - February 3, 2016 at 3:58 am
RE: Really, Germany? - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 3, 2016 at 4:49 am

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