RE: Baptism and religious family
February 25, 2011 at 4:52 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2011 at 4:53 pm by Rwandrall.)
@reverendjeremiah
If Catholics did whatever the Church told them, they wouldnt have a 40% rate of divorce in France ^^
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@Moros Synackaon
Yeah...no. You're arguing semantics.
First, i see nowhere in your definition anything about actually doing anything in relation to the Church except accepting its beliefs. Accepting the Church's beliefs in no way means that you support its members. I know a lot of Catholics who dislike the Pope without stopping to be Catholic.
Second, belonging to an organization that commits crimes does not make you an accomplice. At all. That is not a long standing legal tradition whatsoever. If a car salesman of Ford kills someone and the higher-ups of the company cover it up, you cannot charge the whole company's employees as accomplices to murder. It really makes no kind of sense.
Then, take people that are baptized (the main requirement to "belong" to the Church) but have had no link to the Church for 20 years. Would you say these people are guilty as well ?
See it any way you like, it is still a large generalization of a group comprising hundreds of thousands of people, many of which are really decent people.
If Catholics did whatever the Church told them, they wouldnt have a 40% rate of divorce in France ^^
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@Moros Synackaon
Yeah...no. You're arguing semantics.
First, i see nowhere in your definition anything about actually doing anything in relation to the Church except accepting its beliefs. Accepting the Church's beliefs in no way means that you support its members. I know a lot of Catholics who dislike the Pope without stopping to be Catholic.
Second, belonging to an organization that commits crimes does not make you an accomplice. At all. That is not a long standing legal tradition whatsoever. If a car salesman of Ford kills someone and the higher-ups of the company cover it up, you cannot charge the whole company's employees as accomplices to murder. It really makes no kind of sense.
Then, take people that are baptized (the main requirement to "belong" to the Church) but have had no link to the Church for 20 years. Would you say these people are guilty as well ?
See it any way you like, it is still a large generalization of a group comprising hundreds of thousands of people, many of which are really decent people.
