(February 17, 2016 at 6:00 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: This attitude (the one held by Xtian parents, as you mentioned above), more than ever is what we should work to abolish, IMHO. Yes, I do know what IMHO means , and I really don't think it's the least bit arrogant to hold such a position, and teach this position that the rights of children, who are the future, are more important than parental rights.
I agree that well-being of children is more important, but that makes two of us. It isn't exactly number which matter.
(February 17, 2016 at 6:00 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Parental custody has since the 20th Century been a revocable privilege for some very good reasons, and denying children the right to learn the unbiased facts which will enable them to make their own intellectual and moral decisions are at least two very good reasons to add to that list.
This reason is good for us. In countries with strong religious influence it would be deemed totalitarian idea.
(February 17, 2016 at 6:00 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: To indoctrinate them with non-fact under the motivation of making them religious as you are is to cripple their minds against learning and understanding unbiased facts, therefore this must be be publically discourage, if not outlawed.
Sure. But religion is too strong for outlawing such. Also argument about totalitarianism isn't without any merit for if state can revoke parent's right to indoctrinate then it easily can revoke the right to teach children other things. Precedent would be already existing.
(February 17, 2016 at 6:00 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: In my not-so-humble opinion, and I truly could give a fuck how the child brain molester sees it: If you think it's your god-given right to indoctrinate your children with whatever you believe is true, then fuck you - you don't, and it's far past time we show you that it isn't your right! Far from this being a totalitarian position, this is a necessity in order to protect the rights of every child, therefore it should be enforced.
Problem is that it's not I who need to be convinced of this. I can't imagine religious parents giving up easily neither I think that this idea would find much support. It may be not totalitarian but I'm quite sure that it would be perceived and pictured that way and perception is the key here.
(February 17, 2016 at 6:00 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: The prevailing attitude won't change overnight, but I think a lot of people now understand what this means to society, and some day the decisions which direct children's learning opportunities and lives will no longer be subject to the whim of stupid parents.
I do not think that we will live long enough to see such changes.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.
Mikhail Bakunin.
Mikhail Bakunin.