Theist with Questions

[RBP3280]

I'm an ex agnostic, turned theist. I'm not a fundamentalist, actually fairly unorthodox. 

My turning point was due to people who have been clinically dead and were resuscitated, as well are recovery of terminally ill that should not have survived but did and most with very few side effects from their injury or illness. 

I'm not here to sway opinions but to hear different beliefs and ask questions. 

I'm always interested in talking to people that have had near death experiences, and especially if they were considered clinically dead.

[arewethereyet]

By definition, no one recovers from a terminal illness.

[Rev. Rye]

Tell that to Wilko Johnson





Of course, it turned out that, in his case, the cancer turned out to not be quite as dire as previously expected.

[arewethereyet]

Tell that to Wilko Johnson





Of course, it turned out that, in his case, the cancer turned out to not be quite as dire as previously expected.

Well, then we have Drich who was cured of all sorts of things by his gawd.

[Rev. Rye]

Don't you mean had?

[Jehanne]

I'm an ex agnostic, turned theist. I'm not a fundamentalist, actually fairly unorthodox. 

My turning point was due to people who have been clinically dead and were resuscitated, as well are recovery of terminally ill that should not have survived but did and most with very few side effects from their injury or illness. 

I'm not here to sway opinions but to hear different beliefs and ask questions. 

I'm always interested in talking to people that have had near death experiences, and especially if they were considered clinically dead.

Without exception, all aspects of NDEs can be recreated, on demand, under controlled conditions. Establishing that we, as humans, have an immaterial component, a soul or spirit, that survives the death of our brains and bodies, is falling off a log scientifically. The test has been one of verdicality, the remote viewing of concealed objects; at least a half dozen scientific studies have looked for this phenomenon, and all have reported negative results.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I'm an ex agnostic, turned theist. I'm not a fundamentalist, actually fairly unorthodox. 

My turning point was due to people who have been clinically dead and were resuscitated, as well are recovery of terminally ill that should not have survived but did and most with very few side effects from their injury or illness. 

I'm not here to sway opinions but to hear different beliefs and ask questions. 

I'm always interested in talking to people that have had near death experiences, and especially if they were considered clinically dead.

In 1987, I was caught in an explosion. I was told later than I had 'clinically died' for several seconds during surgery - no heartbeat, no breathing (it was emergency surgery, so I can't make claims about brain function).

No tunnel with a light at the end, no white robed figures - nothing. I remember being in the street where the explosion took place, and then I woke up in hospital a week later. Nothing in between.

I think that fits in rather neatly with the vast majority of perithanatic experiences.

Boru

[Deesse23]

I'm an ex agnostic, turned theist. I'm not a fundamentalist, actually fairly unorthodox. 

My turning point was due to people who have been clinically dead and were resuscitated, as well are recovery of terminally ill that should not have survived but did and most with very few side effects from their injury or illness. 

I'm not here to sway opinions but to hear different beliefs and ask questions. 

I'm always interested in talking to people that have had near death experiences, and especially if they were considered clinically dead.

You believe in the supernatural (aka god[s]), you became a theist, because people were near death?
You believe in the supernatural because we dont understand (yet) why some terminally illnesses reverse?
Because thats literally what you just said.

[zebo-the-fat]

I'm an ex agnostic, turned theist. I'm not a fundamentalist, actually fairly unorthodox. 

My turning point was due to people who have been clinically dead and were resuscitated, as well are recovery of terminally ill that should not have survived but did and most with very few side effects from their injury or illness. 

I'm not here to sway opinions but to hear different beliefs and ask questions. 

I'm always interested in talking to people that have had near death experiences, and especially if they were considered clinically dead.

Without exception, all aspects of NDEs can be recreated, on demand, under controlled conditions.  Establishing that we, as humans, have an immaterial component, a soul or spirit, that survives the death of our brains and bodies, is falling off a log scientifically.  The test has been one of verdicality, the remote viewing of concealed objects; at least a half dozen scientific studies have looked for this phenomenon, and all have reported negative results.

I don't care about Near Death Experiences, I want  to see some evidence of Post Death Experience

[The Valkyrie]

I'm an ex agnostic, turned theist. I'm not a fundamentalist, actually fairly unorthodox. 

My turning point was due to people who have been clinically dead and were resuscitated, as well are recovery of terminally ill that should not have survived but did and most with very few side effects from their injury or illness. 

I'm not here to sway opinions but to hear different beliefs and ask questions. 

I'm always interested in talking to people that have had near death experiences, and especially if they were considered clinically dead.

In 1987, I was caught in an explosion. I was told later than I had 'clinically died' for several seconds during surgery - no heartbeat, no breathing (it was emergency surgery, so I can't make claims about brain function).

No tunnel with a light at the end, no white robed figures - nothing. I remember being in the street where the explosion took place, and then I woke up in hospital a week later. Nothing in between.

I think that fits in rather neatly with the vast majority of perithanatic experiences.

Boru

This.

Had a rather bad motorcycle accident.

My heart stopped for somewhere close to two minutes. Until that point I didn't even know I had a weak heart.

No tunnels, no heaven or hell. No Valhalla (disappointed!), not even a visit to Olympus.

Only thing I got out of it was a rather obvious scar on my hip and a terrified paramedic that I yelled at.

A lot!