OP ED RANT! Never accuse me of this.

[Brian37]

What is this hysteria good for? Do you really think any liberal would be against the people and not the idea? The reality of it is a lot of people who proclaim those ideas think and do evil things because they feel justified. That's simply the reality of it. They are to blame, at least partially, for it.

Do we blame the nazis? Were they all bad people? That's what you sound like to me. I don't think we should hate muslims but I do think we should be careful when opening Europe up to an extremely different culture like that.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!

That is the same argument I got from the guy I blocked!

Listen chicken little, "the sky is falling" attitude is panic, paranoia that has nothing to do with pragmatic solutions. Stop accusing me of ignoring that the Quran IS used to justify cruelty, never claimed it wasn't. If you go back and read my posts I have agreed IT IS.

There is a right way to put a mirror up to the face of Islam, and a wrong way. Scaring the shit out of everyone to the point it is merely justifying bigotry. Attacking religious justifications for violence IS FINE, not only fine, but required to reduce and minimize the harm to our fellow humans.

YOU are freaking out merely because I said presumption of guilt of the individual, IS NOT the way to put that mirror up to Islam.

THIS is how you combat religiously justified violence......

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/.../long.html

Not,

"They all do it lets assume guilt by association". 

You hurt people like Ayaan, you hurt people like Malala, and Nada, by carpet bombing presumption of guilt. 

If you want the Middle East to get with the modern pluralistic west, you can attack the claims without presuming the guilt of the individual.

I would have the same feeling of wanting to kick someone in the nuts if they accused my mom of protecting pedophile priests because she is still Catholic. I was the first to jump all over the Pope for his stupid fucking comment about "don't pick on religion, it is like picking on someone's mom". I attack the the institution, I attack the idea that any holy book is our source of morality.

But, as Penn Rightfully said, "don't hate the faithful, hate faith itself, fuck faith".

I am not even arguing you are wrong about Islam, I am only arguing tactic,  not intent.

I am a liberal, but not a blind politically correct liberal. I go after Islam too, and the current state of Islam is still in the East far too theocratic and religiously fascist. But in attacking that climate, what I refuse to do, is lose my sense of humanity. I refuse to presume guilt of the individual by proxy of label. I go after claims and climates as a larger sample, but individuals no.