Natural Order and Science

[Harris]

See, Alex said something very reasonable and factually true. I and other scientists who have worked with artificial evolution and self organisation can attest to the fact that it is relatively easy to evolve something using very simple components that can take many months to figure out how it works, if at all. Whether it's a circuit design using FPGAs, neural networks or whatever. I myself spent three months trying to figure out how my neural networks actually functioned during my PhD. In fact I actually spent two weeks trying to stop them working by removing components that I assumed were required only to find that they kept on working albeit at a lesser performance. I envisage spending just as long if not longer with my artificially evolved dynamical systems. All I know is, they work. You on the other hand Harris, have responded with word salad that is not relevant to anything that Alex has said. It is also factually incorrect and relies on equivocation.

Are you trying to persuade the idea that scientific processes and natural processes can grow in progressive manner without having certain relevant laws which set rules for their orderly and harmonized activities? If you mean all that then you are closing your eyes on brute facts of science. If science is incapable of understanding certain processes does that means those processes are self-subsistent and they do not need any governing laws?

You still haven't explained what a proper code of conduct actually is. Or for that matter a coding system. I can say though that "specify the expected behaviour in accordance with those determinant set of rules" is factually wrong because it ignores the concept of emergent phenomena which has been studied in-depth in the scientific literature (e.g flocking behaviour, ant colonies, bee hives etc). You can for example emulate flocking behaviour with just three rules without specifying an expected behaviour.

A code of conduct is a set of rules outlining the pattern for the productive actions. Productive actions may manipulate within the framework of the laws which control those actions. The efficacy of the actions is totally dependent on how the actions are controlled within the framework of code of conduct.
The emergent meaning can be grasped only through a constructive interpretation, an imaginative restructuring of semantic fields, which makes sense of the emergent phenomena as a whole. However, the order is embedded and concrete for an achieved harmony which is always particular and specific.