Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.

[Tiberius]

Adoption is not a right, Adrian. No matter how badly you want to be right & no matter how many times you repeat that it is, nothing is going to change that fact.

Ok, but it is a privilege, and a privilege that is being denied for the simple reason that you (and the government apparently) don't agree with their beliefs. I hold that a simple disagreement is not a valid reason.

And if you honestly think that raising a child as a racist or Nazi is in the best interest of the child, then it's obvious that you are very, very inexperienced in matters of child rearing & welfare & your opinion on this matter is of little worth.

I think that in a free country, people are allowed to have their own opinions, and that those opinions should not mean they are denied privileges by the government. What use is freedom of speech and expression if the government can just deny privileges based on what you say and support? Face it, by denying this couple the privilege of adoption, you are completely discarding these freedoms.

If you think the state should be giving money to a racist or a Nazi to actually foster a child, well that's just hilarious.

Hilarious to you; fair and equal to me. I don't have to like what people believe in order to support their right to express it, and their right (yes, their right) not to be discriminated over it.

Yes, and if they cannot control their urges & actually do something illegal to or with a minor they can be put in a mental hospital like any other person with a mental condition they didn't "choose" to have. Certainly you are not suggesting that it should be legal for said paedophiles to have sexual relations with a child because they didn't "choose" to be a paedophile?

No, and there wasn't anything in what I originally said that could have possibly led you to such a conclusion.

How could it be something we should be teaching kids? Are you suggesting that racism is a belief system that has a possibility of being right?

No, I'm suggesting that some parents do think it is something they should be teaching their kids. The government don't stop parents from teaching their own children about their beliefs, so why do they try and stop when the child is fostered or adopted?

No, he's suggesting that *foster* parents have the right to pollute *foster* children's heads with evil nonsense so when they give them back to the state in 2 or 3 years they are even more fucked up than when they got there.

Sounds like a great idea, doesn't it?

It is only pollution and evil in your opinion. I hold that it isn't up to you to decide what can and cannot be taught to children; it is up to the parents (be them biological, foster, or adoptive). In a highly religious society, the government may decide that you aren't allowed to foster children, because you may teach them your atheistic beliefs. I assume that you'd be fine with that right? I mean, the government's always right yeah?

Don't be stupid. Paedophiles have victims. There is no victim in a gay couple. When people hold views or do things that effect nobody else other than themselves or another consenting adult there is no reason we should allow others to spread views that what they are doing is somehow wrong or unacceptable. Thats what this couple would likely have done.

Correction. Some paedophiles have victims; others have enough sense not to follow through with their sexual desires.

And the fact you would allow racists and nazis to adopt just to protect this bullshit ideal of everyone's views being defended is insane.

Another liberal against freedom of speech? You guys are everywhere!!!