RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
March 3, 2011 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2011 at 4:25 pm by Jaysyn.)
(March 3, 2011 at 3:31 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Hilarious to you; fair and equal to me. I don't have to like what people believe in order to support their right to express it, and their right (yes, their right) not to be discriminated over it.
So you'd be fine & dandy with a company that didn't hire blacks, women or homosexuals? No? Then tell me how is this different? The state is ultimately responsible for this child & seemingly can no longer endorse the views that the couple in question have by letting them foster children. It's actually pretty cut & dry when you think of it that way.
(March 3, 2011 at 3:31 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I think that in a free country, people are allowed to have their own opinions, and that those opinions should not mean they are denied privileges by the government. What use is freedom of speech and expression if the government can just deny privileges based on what you say and support? Face it, by denying this couple the privilege of adoption, you are completely discarding these freedoms.
You are conveniently ignoring right of the foster child to not have his mind filled with bigotry against a protected class, which I & apparently the UK, would consider bad form if not mental abuse. You are also ignoring the rights of the state to decide where to place foster children. Why on earth do you think the racist's or homophobe's privilege supersedes these?
A natural parents rights may supersede them, but a foster parent's do not, no matter how you frame your argument.
(March 3, 2011 at 3:31 pm)Tiberius Wrote: In a highly religious society, the government may decide that you aren't allowed to foster children, because you may teach them your atheistic beliefs. I assume that you'd be fine with that right? I mean, the government's always right yeah?
But we are talking about the UK & USA, not Saudi Arabia. Everyone here already knows that theocracies are lost causes.
(March 3, 2011 at 3:31 pm)Tiberius Wrote: It is only pollution and evil in your opinion.
It's unethical & borderline to outright mental abuse.
(March 3, 2011 at 3:31 pm)Tiberius Wrote: No, I'm suggesting that some parents do think it is something they should be teaching their kids. The government don't stop parents from teaching their own children about their beliefs, so why do they try and stop when the child is fostered or adopted?
Because the natural parent's right supersede that of the state. If the child is a ward of the state this is no longer true.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal