(March 2, 2016 at 7:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You're not accepting the framework on it's own territory. We're fallen, our will isn't subverted by these things, our will is to -do- these things. Subverting our will would be an improvement.
Your view of will and mine are different. If I'm overweight, I will want to become healthy again. However, the instinct to eat plays funny games with the brain, and I will likely engage in behaviors counter to my desires.