(March 2, 2016 at 2:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Let's pull back just a bit. Nuclear war won't wipe out the human race, nor will a meteor strike that's anything less than global and total. Climate change can't do it either. Even assuming that our demise looms over the next horizon...I'm glad I'm not a water bear. That penguins huddle for warmth is no different than ourselves huddling for warmth...and if penguins could build houses I doubt we'd see them doing much huddling out in the open.
What is the "apex argument", exactly....what are you objecting to with this? Is it;
Quote:It really is stupid logic to think because we can kill and eat animals and build tall buildings that we can always reproduce more than other life and or survive under all conditions.
Who thinks that, for those reasons?
NO, lets not dial it back. A nuclear ware most certainly could wipe us out. I didn't say it was an absolute, but the the disruption of communication, the mass poisoning of food sources, and the lack of sanitary conditions and infighting would increased. We'd be so focused on murdering even our own neighbor's for food.
And are you kidding me? 5 mass extinctions on this planet, and I don't think all of them were caused by meteors, but certainly one big enough could hit us. To think there are none out there big enough to kill us off is absurd. Now if you are talking short term, that is one thing, but we do know our planet has been hit by very big meteors.
What scientists are saying currently even if we can survive somewhat, even long term, climate change will severely make thing harder on us and at a minimum could lead to global conflict to the point of knocking us back to the stone age.
Who? I didn't accuse anyone who accepts science of being in denial, that last line you quoted me on was aimed at the morons who do deny science and think humans are the center of the planet and universe, not you.