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Ths Islamic State: IS
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RE: Ths Islamic State: IS
I have so many questions to do with this it's amazing. I will list my questions orderly.

  1. Where in the Quran does it say that it can be used as a constitution? Or lets put it another way: How much does the Quran have to say about nation building in general? Isn't Sharia and Caliphates mainly a Hadith thing? Fiqh is commonly understood to also from the Hadith collections, in addition to Quran and Sunnah, yes or no?
    The world has changed so much since Muhammad's time. The Sharia has nothing to say about fire stations, hospitals and police stations because they weren't around during Muhammad's time. The tax system proposed by Sharia doesn't take into account the array of amenities that we need to make a modern, healthy, society function. The Saudi and Iran, often cited as examples of Sharia states, survive on oil. What does the Quran say about looking after people with severe disabilities for example? Do we do as nomads, in general, have traditionally done, and leave the ill behind because they slow the society down?
  2. How do you resolve disagreements between the various Madhhab? Does might make right? What if the Ibadis and the Ismaili don't want to listen to the Hanafis, who happen to be in charge at the time? Do you treat them like Nimr al-Nimr was treated and basically say "F you"? People get killed simply for praying slightly differently, because, you know, there are different ways of doing Salat, so Fiqh will be a major issue.
  3. Will people be stopped from "Fatwah shopping"? I.e. Choosing the most preferable Fiqh for the crime that they have committed?
  4. Got nothing to say about Quran 2:256, so moving swiftly onto the crimes which you listed. You get your morality, as a Quranist, solely from Quran and you also think thay morality is objective. That's fair enough. However, I don't think there was enough detail in this section I felt.
    For all of the crimes that you listed, do you have Quran Iyah which you use to determine that each one of those things which you listed are wrong? What method did you use to determine those things are wrong? If for any of those it's simply because you're a decent human being who wants to get along with others then you don't need Quran for that one.
  5. I thought you didn't like Sharia? What you're proposing sounds an awful lot like Sharia. And you need Hadith for Sharia, surely.
  6. Still waiting for evidence that Adam and Eve existed. Nothing the human genome suggests that all humans descended from two people. What became the humans we know today interbred with Neanderthals and other things. Nobody would want to make the claim Adam and Eve we Neanderthals because that would hurt their religion. So I ask you, when did humans start becoming humans? There's loads of evidence for evolution, and I know that you are sincere person so I'm sure you'll give Adam and Eve some thought.
  7. In Jewish scripture the word "Adam" is a general term for humans, or at least it used to be seen that way. It's only later that people interpret the word "Adam" as a name, and thus one person. Why is the Quran copying this mistake? I spoke about this here.

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Ths Islamic State: IS - by WinterHold - March 5, 2016 at 12:15 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by FebruaryOfReason - March 5, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by ReptilianPeon - March 5, 2016 at 7:25 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by WinterHold - March 7, 2016 at 11:57 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by Minimalist - March 5, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by robvalue - March 5, 2016 at 12:47 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by The Grand Nudger - March 5, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by ReptilianPeon - March 5, 2016 at 7:17 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by brewer - March 5, 2016 at 7:39 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by Expired - March 5, 2016 at 7:43 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 5, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by robvalue - March 6, 2016 at 4:00 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by brewer - March 6, 2016 at 9:25 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by ignoramus - March 6, 2016 at 4:09 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by paulpablo - March 6, 2016 at 9:55 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by vodkafan - March 6, 2016 at 5:43 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by robvalue - March 7, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by ErGingerbreadMandude - March 7, 2016 at 3:25 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by paulpablo - March 7, 2016 at 3:45 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by WinterHold - March 10, 2016 at 3:38 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by robvalue - March 7, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by The Grand Nudger - March 7, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by ReptilianPeon - March 7, 2016 at 4:04 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by paulpablo - March 10, 2016 at 4:08 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by WinterHold - March 10, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by paulpablo - March 10, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by WinterHold - March 13, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by ReptilianPeon - March 13, 2016 at 11:54 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by ReptilianPeon - March 10, 2016 at 6:52 am
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by WinterHold - March 10, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by ReptilianPeon - March 10, 2016 at 7:28 pm
RE: Ths Islamic State: IS - by The Grand Nudger - March 10, 2016 at 7:32 pm

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