(March 7, 2016 at 12:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(March 7, 2016 at 12:03 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Except you haven't really demonstrated that you have control over your actions, which if false, demolishes your argument.
It doesn't matter if it's true or false, simply making the claim demolishes any argument for free will based upon it, regardless of whether or not one actually has free will or free will even exists. Claiming to have control over our actions is claiming to have free will. It's a non-starter.
May as well have said;
I have free will
Since I have free will I have free will
Free will exists because I have free will
I've never understood the need to jump through hoops over free will. Either we have it or we don't, but it's difficult to see what the difference in our lives would be regardless. At best, it's an attribute that a person has failed to provide compelling argument for but possesses nevertheless, at worst, it's a delusion that harms no one.
Right. It's like saying I know free will exists because I have it. It's not different from saying I know the bible is the word of god because it says so in the bible.
I could imagine people using the "there is no such thing as free will" card to commit terrible acts against others, but people use all kinds of different excuses for committing terrible acts against others, so I guess it's irrelevant.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
