Free will and humans
March 7, 2016 at 10:34 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2016 at 10:36 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(March 7, 2016 at 9:48 pm)pool the great Wrote:(March 7, 2016 at 12:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It doesn't matter if it's true or false, simply making the claim demolishes any argument for free will based upon it, regardless of whether or not one actually has free will or free will even exists. Claiming to have control over our actions is claiming to have free will. It's a non-starter.
May as well have said;
I have free will
Since I have free will I have free will
Free will exists because I have free will
I've never understood the need to jump through hoops over free will. Either we have it or we don't, but it's difficult to see what the difference in our lives would be regardless. At best, it's an attribute that a person has failed to provide compelling argument for but possesses nevertheless, at worst, it's a delusion that harms no one.
By your logic you don't believe in anger either :
I have a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility.
Since I have a a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility I have anger.
Anger exists because I have a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility.
Might as well have said,
I have anger
Since I have anger I have anger.
Anger exists because I have anger.
Right?
Right. It doesn't make sense, does it? I don't think rhythm ever stated he "didn't believe in" free will. He was merely explaining that your proof was fallacious. And there is no, 'your logic' or 'my logic'. It's just LOGIC. And yours still begs the question, I think.
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Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.