(March 8, 2016 at 5:59 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(March 8, 2016 at 2:51 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Excusing rape doesn't have to involve, nor have I ever claimed that it did involve, claiming that rape is okay. Only that it is excusable, or that complicity in it is excusable.
It's an objectively bad thing and people who are engaged in it or complicit to it are bad people....I'm wholly against it and them...except when.. [fill in this shitty blank with nonsense of your own choosing]. Some fun examples include;
"my god is involved"
"it's part of a plan"
"it benefits us, somehow, to have it included"
I am always against it. I have made that clear. That's exactly what it means to say something is objectively immoral... it means it is always evil and NEVER excusable, for anyone, under any circumstances... no matter who, what, where, when, why, how.
Let me ask a slightly different question than Mr. Wizard's last one, then:
Is it ever okay, under any circumstances, to allow a rape to occur when one could easily prevent it without incurring any risk?
I hope you think about that one. And by the way, you have been subjected to quite a bit of abuse here, and I just want to say that, although I understand the indignation of those who have been harsh with you, I also understand the spot you're in - basically, a person like you paints themselves into a corner and can't avoid saying things that they would never say otherwise. Religious people sometimes are put into a situation where they feel like they must defend horrible positions, but it doesn't mean they actually believe that, say, rape or killing children is okay. I think their overall behavior confirms that. The fault is with religion, and the hold it has on people's minds.