Theist zone

[reverendjeremiah]

You want tangible evidence for an intangible device?

Oh. We are going THERE now? You dont have to give any evidence for it, and claim it is impossible to tell what a soul is beacause "its different from person to person", then you claim a soul is a "device" (begging the argument that it does manipulate tangible thing, yet is still intangible) and that is imposible to prove it exists because it is intagable.

Fine. I own a sword. It is called "death of dreams". It has powerful magic on it and it is able to kill a god. I killed Jesus about 3 months ago and replaced him with loki so that you will be fooled into thinking Loki is Jesus. Do you pray to Jesus and hold him up as the prince of peace? Then you are really doing so for Loki. Death of Dreams is intangible. If you believe in Jesus then that is proof that Jesus is dead and you are doing the bidding of Loki.

Do you often ask people for the impossible, and then wonder why they can't give it to you?

I understand. The soul doesnt exist because Death of Dreams killed every single soul in existence when it slayed Jeebus. I understand it is difficult for you to prove that your soul exists after I killed it so many moons ago.

Not if it doesn't sit right with you, you shouldn't have. Souls are the subject of metaphysics, by nature they are taken on strong faith if taken at all.

I agree. Just like Death of Dreams is also a subject of metaphysics as well.

Breathing is an interesting concept for those who do not. Monogamy is interesting to me because I am not, and I have no idea how that experience feels. I need more than a "what it is" to fully claim an understanding of it... i need to 'feel it' to actually be able to relate to those who live with monogamy. And people that are not polyamorous need to know more than "what it is" to relate to me about it.

Exactly. And the "Jesus/god feeling" that you are feeling is actually proof that Loki is fooling you after I utilized the intangible device of Death of Dreams.

Why does a soul need to be proven by empirical means? It would seem that you've already closed the case on the soul, and are running through the formalities. As defined, a soul is not tangible. This means that tangible measurements (height, width, weight) do not apply to it... and it cannot be proven to exist by finding these things... as doing so would not be finding a soul as it has been defined.

and since you have just tossed out the requirement of empirical evidence, then you MUST be willing to believe anything I say to you, especially Death of Dreams..or do you want Emperical evidence for my claims, but want me to not ask for empircal evidence of you? I might as well just say everything that you say is truth and real, no matter how absurd:
You = Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.
Me = Well, I am not allowed to ask for evidence, so it obviously must be true, especially if he "feels" it is tru in his heart. Cant go wrong there.
You = Jesus is my bitch ho
Me = WOW. You must be all powerful! Do you want me to worship you?
You = gyhtra is the way of allowing dertig to manifest in your hutry
Me = I havent the slightest idea what you said, but dare I question it or risk not having dertig manifest in my hutry? I dare not risk it!