(March 9, 2016 at 8:47 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(March 9, 2016 at 5:14 am)Little Rik Wrote: So you know for sure that something does not exist just by doing nothing and experiencing nothing
in that sense.
Whoooooo that is clever yog.
How did you become so smart?
Eating a lot of spinach?
Your claim that I have done nothing to arrive at this conclusion is as unsupported as the rest of your twaddle. I have arrived at this conclusion as a result of much studying and thinking. But you're oblivious to all that, as your preferred route to knowledge consists of sitting on your ass. And your response to me here is just a pretext for you puffing your usual wares about how you must expend effort in intuitional science to know anything about it, such as whether or not it is even compatible with reality. To which I say, "hogwash," there are multiple ways to study life and I have engaged in most of them. If, as you say, merely by engaging in a practice you can know the summit of such practice, then I do. Either your claim ends up being false by way of my thinking on the subject, or by your claim that by practice one can know the summit. The summit, whatever it is, cannot be known by your experience of the side of the mountain. The side of the mountain tells you that your path is ever upward, that no matter how far you climb, the path always goes higher. This does not in any way tell you that the summit is of infinite height, or that it will go upward forever. You will reach a point at which the climb peters out, and there you are at the summit, not some never never land where the climb goes on forever. The climb does not accurately describe the summit.
(March 9, 2016 at 5:14 am)Little Rik Wrote: How would you know that by studying or performing in any sport or activity you will get at the
top of that activity?
Gee, that is a real difficult question to ask.
I never thought about it yog.
Have a lovely day yog.
What is at question is not whether by performance one will get to the top of that activity -- whatever the top of that activity is -- but rather will any amount of practice allow you to leap tall buildings in a single bound. You can reach the top, but the top isn't total peace of mind, and nothing in your experience, no matter how much practice you've done, demonstrates that it is. You may have experienced peace of mind, perhaps even greater peace of mind as a result of yoga, that doesn't mean that you ever can experience total peace of mind.
(March 9, 2016 at 5:14 am)Little Rik Wrote: Oh, by the way yog, do you know anyone who can help me with this question........what is the
relationship between energy and consciousness?
I could help you with the question, but since you are attached to a dogmatic response to the question, my doing so would be pointless. Regardless of what I say, you'll just use it as an excuse to ramble on advertising this or that unrelated belief of yours. So I could answer your question, but I do not do so because you have demonstrated time and time again that you are not interested in honestly exploring opinions on the matter but rather use every such occasion to prattle on about your dogmatic beliefs.
Unfortunately atheists many dogmas prevent the person to examine how the whole system works.
When atheists think that there is only one life you already screw yourself in the head.
When atheists haven't got a clue about the differences among brain, mind and consciousness and when
they don't know why evolution start where is leading to and the relationship between energy and consciousness then it is impossible to understand whether a cosmic mind exist or not.
Your many studies obviously relate to a little bit of physical understanding of how the PHYSICAL system works.
You just cannot go over the border where a non physical reality exist.
You can study as much as you like.
It will not make any difference.
Everything is on the move in this physical universe for the simple reason that all form of consciousness
wish to get out the physical cage.
Happy people have no desire to make changes but everybody does and they struggle to get at the top of human emancipation.
So it is obvious that nobody is real happy.
If they say so they lie.
Most people can not see the top but their consciousness tell them that by climbing higher and higher
the life get better and better.
It is only when a teacher appear in their lives that they understand that total peace of mind is possible.
The teacher is 24/7 waiting for us to show how total peace of mind is possible but of course if you never
wish to see the real teacher you will never know whether total peace of mind is possible or not.
