(March 11, 2016 at 9:20 am)robvalue Wrote: If they want "to please God", first and foremost, we're just not talking about the same thing anymore. That is generally the hardcore ones who will put that as their first goal, though. But having it in there at all is potentially poisonous, whatever weighting it has.
Truer words haven't been said.... and you have no idea where I'm coming from with this.... but I hear you, man! I hear you!