(March 11, 2016 at 12:20 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(March 11, 2016 at 12:04 pm)Tiberius Wrote: If God prevented all rapes, then we'd never know the evil that was rape. This argument would then be "why does God allow murder?". So then, God prevents all murders, and we never know the evil that was murder. Then the argument would be "why does God allow theft?". So then, God prevents all thefts, and we never know the evil that was theft.
So eventually you get to a point where God is preventing all evil, and humans are incapable of doing evil, which means we are perfect. There are multiple problems with this in terms of Christian doctrine:
1) If we're incapable of doing evil, then you could argue that we don't have free will, but rather limited will. That goes directly against God's plan for us, because he created us to specifically have free will.
2) Accordingly to Christian doctrine, there was a time when there was no murder / rape / theft. It was in the garden of Eden, and humans basically fucked that one up by eating the fruit, and thus losing their innocence and creating our abilities to murder / rape / steal.
3) If God is preventing all evil, then there would be no point in worshiping God, no point in heaven (because we'd practically already be there), etc. The point of life according to the Christian doctrine is that we suffer through it, and if you please God, you get rewarded. Again, this is based on the fact that God wanted us to have free will so we wouldn't be mindless drones, but because we abused our free will to create evil in the world, he came up with this redemption plan.
Therefore, my conclusion is that God totally set us up, knowing full well that we are inherent failures. Which makes him a stinky, lousy, stupid-pants meanie in my opinion. And also kind of a weirdo.
*crosses arms and sits back*
Not to mention extremely narcissistic. If he's real, he should be the poster child for narcissism but alas, we'll never get a good photo of the guy.
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