(March 11, 2016 at 6:21 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(March 11, 2016 at 6:16 pm)Mancunian Wrote: Bollocks
God gave everything it's creation, such that, if there were gods with God, then the universe and all the things in it, would be in state of corruption. We get our identity with respect to it's sight and vision of the creation with respect to himself.
That's an opinion, and strictly from the theistic point of view. But you said in your last post that there isn't anything which can be created out of nothing. Well, if your god can create something out of nothing, then it's no less probable that the same can evolve, over the course of almost 14 billion years, out of nothing through natural processes.
There may come a day, given enough time for humanity to explore its universe, that scientists will not only understand exactly how the universe came into existence - we may even have the power at our fingertips to tweak those processes, or even use our own to build new universes. If this happens, the how of it will be available for theists and atheists alike to review and verify. If you could be one of the theists during such a time, and you actually saw how they do it, then would you still be insisting that it all started with a supernatural origin which is beyond human understanding?
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