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Poll: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
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Only "natural born citizens" should be allowed to be President.
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All citizens should be allowed to be President, but there should be other restrictions on people who are not "natural born citizens".
13.51%
5 13.51%
All citizens should be allowed to become President, and should be treated in the same way.
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21 56.76%
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U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
(March 11, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Did she actually relinquish her US Citizenship though? As far as I'm aware, there's a few steps you have to go through in order to do that. If she didn't do it, then whilst the Canadian government would have considered her only Canadian, the US government would have considered her a dual citizen. Dual citizenships are difficult in that respect; some countries respect them and others don't, and the rules only apply where you currently are. The Canadian government can't take away someone's US citizenship just because they don't recognise it, even if that person signed a statement to the Canadian government that they were giving up their US citizenship. As far as I'm aware, the US government is the only government that can accept such a statement.

It depends on how rigorous the Canadian checks were. Was she required to present a signed declaration that the US government no longer recognised her citizenship?

I agree that if she actually relinquished her US citizenship, Ted Cruz would undoubtably be a Canadian citizen with no actual right to be an American citizen, let alone be eligible for the Presidency. If it's true, then his entire political career has been illegal. Which is why I highly doubt it is true.

Besides, this just happened: http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/03/11/penn...president/

Apparently not.  It seems to be an operation of law type of thing.

http://www.examiner.com/article/proof-th...n-at-birth

Quote:Ted's Father has publicly admitted he became a Canadian citizen in 1968. If his mother's first husband with surname of "Wilson" was also a Canadian citizen (unconfirmed), she would have become a citizen before his father. Even if her first husband was not Canadian, according to Canadian law, she would still have automatically become a Canadian citizen in 1969 after having a Canadian spouse (Ted's Father) and residing in Canada for 1 year. This information substantiates the reports claiming that both of his parents appeared on the Canadian voter's rolls. There is now an unconfirmed claim that someone has supposedly verified that they indeed both voted in the October of 1972 federal Canadian election.

If both of Ted's parents became exclusive citizens of Canada by 1969, then even if his mother tried to file a CRBA, she would not have been able to confer US citizenship to her son as she was no longer a US citizen herself. Even if she somehow retained US citizenship, Ted could not have been granted dual citizenship as it was against Canadian law. The only thing that is certain is that Ted Cruz automatically became a Canadian citizen the instant he was born on Canadian soil and that fact is absolutely irrefutable.




As for part II, I imagine we'll both be old and gray - (well, you'll be old and gray.....I'll be older and grayer!) before the appeals process is finished.
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U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause - by KUSA - February 4, 2016 at 3:18 pm
U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause - by KUSA - February 5, 2016 at 8:14 am
U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause - by KUSA - February 5, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause - by Minimalist - March 11, 2016 at 10:32 pm

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