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Wrong. Gravity exists WAY MORE than just an "idea". Look up the particle/wave split discussion to see where you made your mistake. Also speak with any physicist to understand how gravity is WAY much more than what you say. Nice setting up gravity as a straw man. I refuse to acknowledge it. Let your crows roost on it.

You know: "" usually means that I am being silly.

Really? And here I thought I was directly responding in most of the..oh, I dont know..5 or 6 pages back even up to now. How much more responding do I have to do to qualify as "responding" to you? Not to mention I steered this topic towards souls. I believe my original post was: "no souls, no need for salvation, no need for jesus, no need for afterlives". But by all means, feel free to ignore my comparisons, as I in no way hold them as a qualifier to wether your interest in this matter is sincere.

I certainly didn't see anyone named in your quotes. Further, you maimed quotes by pulling them away from their context, shall we take "-"Even if we both saw a soul literally coming out of someone's body we would each interpret it different" = not a soul, but goblins!" against "You can't escape bias. Even if we both saw a soul literally coming out of someone's body we would each interpret it different, bias does not mean false, although it can imply impartial which I fully admit to.". Maiming quotes by pulling them away from their context isn't a practice I much appreciate.

I do feel free to ignore your comparisons, but I actually read them and felt many of them were bogus comparisons. I agree with the intent behind the first of them (-"I still feel it's logical, not based on evidence though based on faith" = goblins), but the way you said it makes it seem not worth the time of a response. Perhaps if you said "I could say the same about the goblins in my backyard" or something along those lines, then it would be clear what you meant and it would be a decent argument.

It might do one to remember that I have a different definition for evidence than most do, and that my understanding is that everything you believe/know/are aware of is faith-based. So while your argument on this might be a decent argument against others, to me it is garbage.

Really? Then you really didnt get what I was trying to say about the goblins then did you?

*QUICK POLL*
If you understand the point I was trying to make with the Goblins vs. Souls, then please thumb this post up

Are you so quick to dismiss Goblins fooling us into thinking that souls exist? If so then you are WAY MORE closed minded then you claim me to be.

I claim to be open minded on the issue of souls? No. I believe they are not real. I also believe your goblins are not real, and that your sword is not real. I am so quick as to instantly dismiss that Goblins are real, let alone are actually having an effect upon me as defined.

Im not sure if I understand this sentence. Could you clarify?

Sure You do not believe in souls. You do not believe in goblins. Souls are not a thing of the intersubjective realm, as are not goblins. Therefore proof (scientific, intersubjective, empirical, tangible, real) of either of these things is entirely impossible, and therefore you should stop asking for it. Evidence of them can only come from your own subjective view, or from the faith you have in (an)other(s) being right about the reality of souls.