RE: Free will and humans
March 12, 2016 at 8:39 am
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2016 at 8:42 am by Jehanne.)
(March 11, 2016 at 10:14 pm)pool the great Wrote:(March 11, 2016 at 7:28 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Yes, we are consciousness, however, does such prove that we have free will? No, hardly; natural selection is "nature's algorithm," and yet, it is not something that nature figured out. Natural selection is algorithmic, and yet, it is still a mindless process. Determinism is a bottom-up philosophy more than a top-down one; from almost limitless studies on brain injured patients, to those who are on medications and/or drugs, to the conservation laws of nature, free will does not exist because free will can not exist. To say that it does means that all of modern physics is wrong.
Pahaha oh plis dolan.
Right now, I'm feeling like taking a shit. But I can choose not to and go watch power puff girls. Or I can choose to do some Nakamichi or some shadow boxing.
But hey, I think I'll take a shit.
But I don't have free will right? I *had* to decide to take a shit else I'd have broken every laws of physics and broke our universe
You believe that you have free will, and so do I; it's the "first person" narrative that we all possess. When you are "on the pot", you will also believe that you are sitting there motionless, even though modern Science has irrevocably discovered the fact that you'll be "pooping" at a speed far, far greater than that of the speed of sound; that you and your turds conserve angular momentum in such a very precise way that each turd lands exactly in the toilet, irrespective of the fact that its velocity, with respect to the center of the Earth, is well over 1,000 kilometers per hour or its 30 kilometers per second velocity with respect to the Sun or 220 kilometers per second with respect to the Galaxy and even greater velocities with respect to the local Universe.
Absurd? And, therefore, "not true"; that's the argument that Saint Robert Bellarmine made to Galileo over 400 years ago. Now, whether to poop or to watch TV is governed by competing sets of neurons, and I can guarantee you, that, eventually, biology will have its way, and you'll shit, sooner or later, regardless of whether you "want to" or not.
