RE: My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 8:06 pm
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2016 at 8:09 pm by Mystic.)
(March 12, 2016 at 7:38 pm)Chas Wrote:(March 12, 2016 at 7:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well, you're asking a theist that lol. If God didn't exist I don't think anything would exist at all.
There is no evidence that supports that.
It's actually obvious to me in many ways.
I will present one way that I haven't. I know you guys get bored of same arguments so I will present another reflection.
It's obvious I cannot be causing the whole universe to exist. Neither can one atom.
By the same logic, it's obvious to me, an atom cannot be causing itself to exist. Or whatever the smallest unit (quark) or whatever, is not what causes itself to exist, by the same logic that I know it cannot cause the whole universe to exist.
Existence existing is showing and manifesting existence that is caused. What constantly maintains God's existence? Himself. The eternal being that always existed is obvious to me the absolute existence by which all things exist.
What keeps everything from ceasing to exist, what keeps the laws there.
Now you may say things constantly exist by nothing. But surely existence is a phenomenon...the movement of time, the motion, the laws, the existence..all this is displaying something powerful creating it.
It is obvious right now even at this moment, existence is phenomenon that requires something to cause it to constantly exist. Either itself does that or something else. I already showed why I don't believe things constantly maintain their own existence. It's the same reason I would not believe a penny could of create the world and be maintaining right now. It's irrational to believe that. God on the other hand obviously can keep himself existing and keep the world existing.
