(March 10, 2016 at 3:23 pm)little_monkey Wrote:(March 10, 2016 at 6:59 am)Harris Wrote: Are you saying that you can differentiate all truths of nature because you have handful knowledge about the physical world?No, I'm not saying that, but thanks for bringing it up. In areas where science has made great strides then I have something that is reliable. Science is not going to give all the answers, and those answers it provides are under temporary notice - should new evidence be discovered than those answers might be altered. It's a reality I must consider at all times. What may look as a weakness is really a strength as science has an inbuilt mechanism for self-correction. OTOH, if religion claims to have THE truth, then what if it's wrong, and possibly totally wrong, where does that leave those who have adhered to it all their lives? And then in areas where science is in its infancy or has nothing to say yet, I can still use rationality, logic and empirical method to seek out the best way to choose among the options that life offers me. It's much better than accepting any crackpot theory because there's a problem with that from the get-go - which crackpot theory do I choose since they're all equivalent?
Has your scientific knowledge brought you any jackpot theory about your own life?
Are you saying you have followed strictly laws of physics in making all your emotional decisions in your life?
If you are saying all that then I do not believe you.
Do not forget about the concept of Eugenics that have took lives of tens of millions of innocent people. Everyone know that the idea of Eugenics came from the Great Theory of Evolution based on Natural Selection. It is unwise to overlook the corruptions that people have introduced in scientific concepts to achieve some political objectives. No matter how atrocious those corruptions were but no one is condemning science based on those atrocities.
However, you are making religious corruptions a base to condemn the idea of God, corruptions that people have invented in religions to achieve their selfish, mean, and greedy objectives.
“Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allah (God)," to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby.”
Al Baqarah (2)
-Verse 79-
Well that is a false approach because by rejecting God you are confirming the idea that our orderly, intelligible, and predictable universe have come into being from nowhere. This idea in fact is worse than any fairy tale that man’s mind has ever produced because chance, accident, and nothingness are not the paths on which scientific explorations are made.
The correct way of thinking is to acknowledge the reality. The reality is that every single event in the universe is happening on regular pattern and controlled by some natural coding system. This coding system regulates all actions in the universe to such a precision that minuscule change in universal constants can restructure the universe to such an extent that it will be beyond recognition. These coding and regulatory systems are the outcome of conscious and thoughtful activities and by no means can be taken as the work of chance, accident, etc.
“Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the throne (of authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.”
Ar Ra'd (13)
-Verse 2-
God is real. Denying God is a self-deception. Instead of condemning the idea of God it would be wise to condemn the corruptions in religions which are the cause of anti-god ideas.
Almost all religions of the world have one thing in common. They give guidance and teaching on morality and abandon unnatural acts that people do for having more fun and pleasure. Different cultures and traditions have reshaped same religions differently and in due course corruption also get intermingled and became part of those religions. However, one thing that remained unchanged is the idea of one supreme God who is the Creator of everything and a Divine Ruler.
“For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle, (with the Command), "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil": of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).”
An Nahl (16)
-Verse 36-
Today science is advocating the ideas of multiverse, many dimensions, parallel worlds, worm holes, time travel, moving faster than speed of light, and so on but religions have already discussed similar idea long ago only in a different format.
In my previous post I had given many facts from Quran that science has recently discovered. In Quran and in the tradition of Prophet Muhammad there are many things which are very close to the ideas of time travel, paths in the universe, parallel worlds in different dimensions and so on. For example:
“By the Sky with (its) numerous Paths,”
Adz-Dzaariya (51)
-Verse 7-
I count it an imprudent behaviour if one takes scientific speculations seriously but reject similar ideas in the scriptures.
The concluding point is that if a person (theist or atheist) adamantly rejects everything that contradicts his specific ideology then that behaviour would never let adamant person to develop capabilities which may help exploring other dimensions of life that exist outside of his conceptual shell created by him artificially.
Normally, the main reason of stubborn attitudes are the uncontrollable desires and for a person there is nothing more dangerous than to become a follower of his/her own desires.