(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am)Harris Wrote: “Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allah (God)," to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby.”
Al Baqarah (2)
-Verse 79-
Well that is a false approach because by rejecting God you are confirming the idea that our orderly, intelligible, and predictable universe have come into being from nowhere. This idea in fact is worse than any fairy tale that man’s mind has ever produced because chance, accident, and nothingness are not the paths on which scientific explorations are made.
That's just false. Rejecting God does not commit you to any particular theory of origins.
(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am)Harris Wrote: The correct way of thinking is to acknowledge the reality. The reality is that every single event in the universe is happening on regular pattern and controlled by some natural coding system. This coding system regulates all actions in the universe to such a precision that minuscule change in universal constants can restructure the universe to such an extent that it will be beyond recognition. These coding and regulatory systems are the outcome of conscious and thoughtful activities and by no means can be taken as the work of chance, accident, etc.
And you're back to merely asserting things that you need to prove. Where's your support for this. This is the third time I've pointed out that this is a bare assertion and you've yet to provide any support for it.
(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am)Harris Wrote: God is real. Denying God is a self-deception. Instead of condemning the idea of God it would be wise to condemn the corruptions in religions which are the cause of anti-god ideas.
It's twoo! It's twoo!
Sorry, not buying your bald assertion. Religion leads to corruption. That's an obvious fact. We can blame both religion and the corruption.
(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am)Harris Wrote: Almost all religions of the world have one thing in common. They give guidance and teaching on morality and abandon unnatural acts that people do for having more fun and pleasure. Different cultures and traditions have reshaped same religions differently and in due course corruption also get intermingled and became part of those religions. However, one thing that remained unchanged is the idea of one supreme God who is the Creator of everything and a Divine Ruler.
So what? Errors occur. Systematic errors persist systematically. Whatever 'guidance and teaching' religions are doing on morality, it doesn't appear to be working. Theists are over-represented in prisons.
(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am)Harris Wrote: “For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle, (with the Command), "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil": of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).”
An Nahl (16)
-Verse 36-
Are you suggesting hell is deep inside the earth? That's nuts.
(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am)Harris Wrote: Today science is advocating the ideas of multiverse, many dimensions, parallel worlds, worm holes, time travel, moving faster than speed of light, and so on but religions have already discussed similar idea long ago only in a different format.
In my previous post I had given many facts from Quran that science has recently discovered. In Quran and in the tradition of Prophet Muhammad there are many things which are very close to the ideas of time travel, paths in the universe, parallel worlds in different dimensions and so on.
Very close if you loosely interpret things. Religion has predicted many things, true and false. You have to count the misses as well as the hits, and religion has a lousy track record in that sense.
(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am)Harris Wrote: I count it an imprudent behaviour if one takes scientific speculations seriously but reject similar ideas in the scriptures.
See above regarding hits and misses.
(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am)Harris Wrote: The concluding point is that if a person (theist or atheist) adamantly rejects everything that contradicts his specific ideology then that behaviour would never let adamant person to develop capabilities which may help exploring other dimensions of life that exist outside of his conceptual shell created by him artificially.
Bollocks. There's a difference between having an open mind and not rejecting even the most outlandish ideas, such as those from religion. Next you'll be telling me that I'm closed minded for adamantly rejecting the existence of unicorns.
(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am)Harris Wrote: Normally, the main reason of stubborn attitudes are the uncontrollable desires and for a person there is nothing more dangerous than to become a follower of his/her own desires.
Normally, maybe, but in this case it's because the poster is speaking bollocks.
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