Free will and humans

[truth_seeker]

Well, it will precede a thought/action if you believe in determinism.
If you're going for free will, then the chemistry follows after your thought/action.

But free will is a thought, a decision that must be initiated.  Are you suggesting qualia has a life of it's own separate from the body or that there is a supernatural explanation?

What I'm saying is that free will, if one believes it exists, must be supernatural.

Why? because nature (atoms, molecules, etc) can be precisely described by mathematical equations and predicted and plotted.
This can be clarified when we speak of the word "naturally". It means something that follows a certain known pattern.
If it consistently does not follow any pattern, then it is either random or not-natural.
And since it is clear that human consciousness is not random at all, then it must be not-natural. supernatural.

Example:
I give you two apples, one green and one red. Which one would you eat?

People who don't believe in freewill will tell you its simple. We'll do an experiment, recruit 100,000 people, do a statistics on their choices, and then come with a prediction. They will then conclude "there, I have just proved to you that I can model human choice".

That's absurd.
Because the person who was given the choice between green and red can simply sit there doing nothing, or play ping pong with the apples, or unzip their pants and jerk off, or throw the apples at the experimenter, or starts opera singing ...

that's free will.