(March 18, 2016 at 12:29 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Ahahaha. The old "it's only a metaphor" excuse. Except that this doesn't make any sense of surah 3:35-37 in which Mary's mother was called the wife of Imran. It's clearly a literal reference.
I am not here to give enlightenment against all of your copy-paste propaganda material. If you proclaim you want to be a Muslim and ask me to help you in clarifying your ambiguities, I with pleasure would help you how much I may possibly can. However, if you want to have fun by copying and pasting dishonest arguments of crooks in an attacking manner then this is my last response to you.
You Wrote:
“Except that this doesn't make any sense of surah 3:35-37 in which Mary's mother was called the wife of Imran. It's clearly a literal reference.”
Biblical Amram was the father of Aaron, Moses, and Miriam (sister of Moses and Aaron). Imran in Quran was the father of Mary (mother of Jesus). According to Muslim tradition there is a difference of eighteen centuries between Biblical Amram and Quranic Imran.
Mary's (mother of Jesus) father Imran is the equivalent to Joachim in Christian tradition. The name of Imran’s wife is not mentioned in Quran but according to Islamic traditions her name was Hannah. Hannah (mother Mary) is the same name as in Christian tradition (Saint Anne). However, the name Hannah is also mentioned in Bible.
Muslim literature narrates that Imran and his wife were old and childless. Hannah (wife of Imran) prayed to God for a child and when she was pregnant, with the birth of a son in mind, Hannah vowed that she would dedicate the child to the service of the Sacred House in Jerusalem, dedicate the child for worship, freed from all worldly affairs. Instead Almighty Allah blessed Hannah with a daughter. She named the girl "Maryam," which literally means "maidservant of Allah," and she asked Allah to protect Maryam and her offspring from evil.
In Quran it is mentioned:
“Behold! a woman of 'Imran said: "O my Lord! I do dedicate unto Thee what is in my womb for Thy special service: So accept this of me: For Thou hearest and knowest all things."”
“When she was delivered, she said: "O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!"- and Allah knew best what she brought forth- "And no wise is the male Like the female. I have named her Mary, and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected."”
“Right graciously did her Lord accept her: He made her grow in purity and beauty: To the care of Zakariya was she assigned. Every time that he entered (Her) chamber to see her, He found her supplied with sustenance. He said: "O Mary! Whence (comes) this to you?" She said: "From Allah. for Allah Provides sustenance to whom He pleases without measure."”
Ali Imran (3)
-Verses 35, 36, 37-
Similar story is mentioned in Bible but with some difference in details.
(1Sam 1:2 [KJV])
And he had two wives; the name of the one [was] Hannah, and the name of the other Peninnah: and Peninnah had children, but Hannah had no children.
(1Sam 1:3 [KJV])
And this man went up out of his city yearly to worship and to sacrifice unto the LORD of hosts in Shiloh. And the two sons of Eli, Hophni and Phinehas, the priests of the LORD, [were] there.
(1Sam 1:4 [KJV])
And when the time was that Elkanah offered, he gave to Peninnah his wife, and to all her sons and her daughters, portions:
(1Sam 1:5 [KJV])
But unto Hannah he gave a worthy portion; for he loved Hannah: but the LORD had shut up her womb.
(1Sam 1:6 [KJV])
And her adversary also provoked her sore, for to make her fret, because the LORD had shut up her womb.
(1Sam 1:7 [KJV])
And [as] he did so year by year, when she went up to the house of the LORD, so she provoked her; therefore she wept, and did not eat.
(1Sam 1:8 [KJV])
Then said Elkanah her husband to her, Hannah, why weepest thou? and why eatest thou not? and why is thy heart grieved? [am] not I better to thee than ten sons?
(1Sam 1:9 [KJV])
So Hannah rose up after they had eaten in Shiloh, and after they had drunk. Now Eli the priest sat upon a seat by a post of the temple of the LORD.
(1Sam 1:10 [KJV])
And she [was] in bitterness of soul, and prayed unto the LORD, and wept sore.
(1Sam 1:11 [KJV])
And she vowed a vow, and said, O LORD of hosts, if thou wilt indeed look on the affliction of thine handmaid, and remember me, and not forget thine handmaid, but wilt give unto thine handmaid a man child, then I will give him unto the LORD all the days of his life, and there shall no razor come upon his head.
(1Sam 1:12 [KJV])
And it came to pass, as she continued praying before the LORD, that Eli marked her mouth.
(1Sam 1:13 [KJV])
Now Hannah, she spake in her heart; only her lips moved, but her voice was not heard: therefore Eli thought she had been drunken.
(1Sam 1:14 [KJV])
And Eli said unto her, How long wilt thou be drunken? put away thy wine from thee.
(1Sam 1:15 [KJV])
And Hannah answered and said, No, my lord, I [am] a woman of a sorrowful spirit: I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but have poured out my soul before the LORD.
(1Sam 1:16 [KJV])
Count not thine handmaid for a daughter of Belial: for out of the abundance of my complaint and grief have I spoken hitherto.
(1Sam 1:17 [KJV])
Then Eli answered and said, Go in peace: and the God of Israel grant [thee] thy petition that thou hast asked of him.
(1Sam 1:18 [KJV])
And she said, Let thine handmaid find grace in thy sight. So the woman went her way, and did eat, and her countenance was no more [sad].
(1Sam 1:19 [KJV])
And they rose up in the morning early, and worshipped before the LORD, and returned, and came to their house to Ramah: and Elkanah knew Hannah his wife; and the LORD remembered her.
(1Sam 1:20 [KJV])
Wherefore it came to pass, when the time was come about after Hannah had conceived, that she bare a son, and called his name Samuel, [saying], Because I have asked him of the LORD.
(1Sam 1:21 [KJV])
And the man Elkanah, and all his house, went up to offer unto the LORD the yearly sacrifice, and his vow.
(1Sam 1:22 [KJV])
But Hannah went not up; for she said unto her husband, [I will not go up] until the child be weaned, and [then] I will bring him, that he may appear before the LORD, and there abide for ever.
(1Sam 1:23 [KJV])
And Elkanah her husband said unto her, Do what seemeth thee good; tarry until thou have weaned him; only the LORD establish his word. So the woman abode, and gave her son suck until she weaned him.
(1Sam 1:24 [KJV])
And when she had weaned him, she took him up with her, with three bullocks, and one ephah of flour, and a bottle of wine, and brought him unto the house of the LORD in Shiloh: and the child [was] young.
(1Sam 1:25 [KJV])
And they slew a bullock, and brought the child to Eli.
(1Sam 1:26 [KJV])
And she said, Oh my lord, [as] thy soul liveth, my lord, I [am] the woman that stood by thee here, praying unto the LORD.
(1Sam 1:27 [KJV])
For this child I prayed; and the LORD hath given me my petition which I asked of him:
(1Sam 1:28 [KJV])
Therefore also I have lent him to the LORD; as long as he liveth he shall be lent to the LORD. And he worshipped the LORD there.
References:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_in_Islam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Anne#In_Islam
http://newtheologicalmovement.blogspot.c...jesus.html
http://www.central-mosque.com/biographies/maryam.htm
