(March 19, 2016 at 1:53 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote:(March 18, 2016 at 10:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: I've said nothing stupid, I'm trying to show you your mistakes. Yes whee does the Bible say Adam committed evil in the Garden. You're the one who said he did you're the one who needs to show what the Bible says he did in the Garden. I'm telling you the Bible says he disobeyed God. You're looking to have your cake and eat it and it ain't happening.
I'm not wrong, prove where the Bible says Adam committed evil in the Garden.
GC
Jeremiah 18:10 says,
"If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them."
So disobedience to God is evil.
Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit, therefore they committed evil, but they were unaware of good and evil before having eaten of the fruit (as I showed above in huge letters). Therefore they were punished for actions which they did not comprehend.
So as I said originally,
Adam and Eve did not know the difference between good and evil
They were then punished for committing evil
Well you brought a good verse, unfortunately for you it doesn't apply to Adam and Eve or any individual. Do you know what the 'it' is in the verse, I doubt you do or you wouldn't have brought this verse to the argument. This verse as the rest in chapter 18 were about Israel and the rights God has dealing with it. Israel was doing all sorts of evil against God, their disobedience against God included idol worship, sexual immorality, badly mistreating their fellow man, sacrificing to other gods and ect. God told them in this very chapter He would tear them down and then rebuild them. You've taken a verse that came thousands of years after Adam one meant for a evil nation and applied it to a situation that is not the same, here's why. When a child disobeys it's parent and that child doesn't understand what sin is God doesn't hold that against the child, Adam and Eve knew not evil so evil was not held against them, disobedience was. It was definitely a terrible case of disobedience because all of mankind suffers because of that act but, it was not evil, one has to know evil to commit evil, period. You failed to prove Adam committed evil, God never said Adam committed an evil act. The worse thing Adam did was to shun God's love and showed no respect for Him.
So take your checkmate and apply it to yourself or someone else.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
