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Brussels Terrorist Attack
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RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack
(March 22, 2016 at 4:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 22, 2016 at 4:26 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Let me clarify -- they cannot be imposed as a change of mind. Of course they can be imposed upon a society ... but it's individual members?

Fair enough.  To that extent I agree completely: you can't make me believe your ideology at the point of a gun.  But if you hold that gun to my wife's head, you can certainly make me act as if I believe your ideology.  

Boru

If I hold a gun to your wife's head and make you act as if you believe by sending your child to my madras, where I have my eyes on the ball of invocations my ideologies, I have a superb chance of making sure your child believes regardless of whether you are only pretending. Lasting victory of Ideology Usually takes a few generations, not a few years.

This is how individuals can be made to truly believe at gun point over a couple of generations.

The west lost the ideology battle at home with many of the second generation youths of Islamic immigrant population not through any failure to point a gun at the head of the immigrants themselves, but by making sure the second generation feel alienated and marginalized rather than trusted and relied upon.
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Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Marsellus Wallace - March 22, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Amine - March 22, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Minimalist - March 22, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KevinM1 - March 22, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Amine - March 22, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KevinM1 - March 22, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Silver - March 24, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by TubbyTubby - March 22, 2016 at 2:30 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Thumpalumpacus - March 22, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 22, 2016 at 2:42 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Thumpalumpacus - March 22, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 22, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Anomalocaris - March 23, 2016 at 5:21 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Thumpalumpacus - March 24, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by ApeNotKillApe - March 22, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Minimalist - March 22, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by dazeagle2112 - March 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Thumpalumpacus - March 22, 2016 at 5:30 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 22, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by scoobysnack - March 22, 2016 at 7:27 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KevinM1 - March 23, 2016 at 1:21 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 23, 2016 at 3:10 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KevinM1 - March 23, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 23, 2016 at 2:46 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by scoobysnack - March 23, 2016 at 10:44 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Minimalist - March 23, 2016 at 1:23 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Thumpalumpacus - March 23, 2016 at 1:38 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by robvalue - March 23, 2016 at 5:46 am
Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KUSA - March 23, 2016 at 6:57 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Kosh - March 23, 2016 at 7:18 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Minimalist - March 23, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Anomalocaris - March 23, 2016 at 7:42 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by I_am_not_mafia - March 24, 2016 at 1:31 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by scoobysnack - March 23, 2016 at 10:49 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by I_am_not_mafia - March 24, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by robvalue - March 23, 2016 at 7:02 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Minimalist - March 23, 2016 at 1:37 pm
Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KUSA - March 23, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Minimalist - March 23, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Brian37 - March 24, 2016 at 1:45 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 24, 2016 at 4:11 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by vorlon13 - March 24, 2016 at 1:12 pm
Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KUSA - March 24, 2016 at 4:07 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Brian37 - March 24, 2016 at 4:21 pm
Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KUSA - March 24, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by vorlon13 - March 24, 2016 at 11:30 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Jackalope - March 25, 2016 at 12:56 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by Jackalope - March 25, 2016 at 12:59 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by scoobysnack - March 25, 2016 at 1:24 am
Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KUSA - March 25, 2016 at 1:27 am
Brussels Terrorist Attack - by KUSA - March 25, 2016 at 1:33 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by abaris - March 26, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by scoobysnack - March 26, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by scoobysnack - March 26, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by abaris - March 26, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by scoobysnack - March 26, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by abaris - March 26, 2016 at 1:06 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by scoobysnack - March 26, 2016 at 1:14 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by abaris - March 26, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by scoobysnack - March 26, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: Brussels Terrorist Attack - by abaris - March 26, 2016 at 1:29 pm

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