(March 23, 2016 at 3:10 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(March 23, 2016 at 1:21 am)KevinM1 Wrote: The refugee crisis is actually a perfect piece of strategy from ISIS. Their stated goal is to increase anti-Islamic sentiment. They want all Muslims to feel disenfranchised and isolated in the West. And we're playing right into their hands with the refugees. They want us to turn away millions of tired, hungry, sick, desperate people because of the threat posed by a relative handful in their midst (note that I'm not denying that threat exists). Even 'better', ISIS can turn around and say, "Look! Look how the West proves their own hypocrisy! Look how they make our brothers and sisters and children die in the streets!"How many monitors (thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions) will it take to monitor all of those refugees and their kids 24/7/365 for the next 100 years? And how much will it cost?
It's terribly brilliant. The best solution would be to let them in after a thorough screening process, then monitor them closely. I'm not sure if separating them would be beneficial or make things more difficult.
Regarding leftist PC stuff, there's a push back taking place. I consider myself pretty liberal, but I find the notion that ANY religion must be treated with kid gloves abhorrent. Fuck Mohammed up the ass with a rusty spike.
If your home looked like this would you really need an asshole to radicalize you? http://cdn-r1.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/up....03.07.png
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/7024804...40x627.jpg
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Please point out for the rest of the class where I said their monitoring should be 24/7/365 for the next 100 years.
Also, what would be your solution? I think that allowing, let's say, a few hundred thousand people in at once, people who we know will be unwittingly providing cover for radicals requires some kind of security response, don't you?
Keep in mind, I'm not saying:
Put them in prison
Put them in camps
Otherwise treat them inhumanely
Just that something needs to happen if we let them in. "Let them in and fuck the consequences" isn't really much better than "Don't let them in" from a security standpoint.
I'm thinking more of a parole-type setup, but one that's more positively focused. Where these people get taught English (or whatever the main language(s) of the Western country they've fled to is), job training if necessary, job placement, etc. Let them earn money, make something positive for themselves again, and pay taxes. Check in once a week or two to some kind of officer/coordinator/counselor to both ease the transition and to allow us to keep some tabs on them. Because it's a lot better than just sitting around in FEMA camps or whatever with no outlet for one's passions/frustrations/anger/sadness/etc.
I mean, we already do this. It doesn't seem like an impossible task to expand/replicate it. The biggest hurdle, in my mind, is housing. Actual housing, not tents or shit.
As far as the costs go, well, maybe we should've thought of that before toppling governments while not having any viable follow up strategy.
Something needs to be done, and the extreme positions - doing nothing or just letting them in after an initial vetting (because we all know how awesome we are at not letting people on terror watch lists in) - aren't realistic.
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