(March 23, 2016 at 12:25 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:See, this is what happens when dummies run the government. They went over to other people's countries and caused havoc and mayhem and now millions of people have been scattered to the winds. So now the dummies want to treat them better than their own citizens. Hell, our own vets, homeless, and released prisoners don't get squat to help them reintegrate into society and now the dummies want to roll out the red carpet for people who don't have any shared values.(March 23, 2016 at 3:10 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: How many monitors (thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions) will it take to monitor all of those refugees and their kids 24/7/365 for the next 100 years? And how much will it cost?
If your home looked like this would you really need an asshole to radicalize you? http://cdn-r1.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/up....03.07.png
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/7024804...40x627.jpg
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dyna...633464.jpg
Please point out for the rest of the class where I said their monitoring should be 24/7/365 for the next 100 years.
Also, what would be your solution? I think that allowing, let's say, a few hundred thousand people in at once, people who we know will be unwittingly providing cover for radicals requires some kind of security response, don't you?
Keep in mind, I'm not saying:
Put them in prison
Put them in camps
Otherwise treat them inhumanely
Just that something needs to happen if we let them in. "Let them in and fuck the consequences" isn't really much better than "Don't let them in" from a security standpoint.
I'm thinking more of a parole-type setup, but one that's more positively focused. Where these people get taught English (or whatever the main language(s) of the Western country they've fled to is), job training if necessary, job placement, etc. Let them earn money, make something positive for themselves again, and pay taxes. Check in once a week or two to some kind of officer/coordinator/counselor to both ease the transition and to allow us to keep some tabs on them. Because it's a lot better than just sitting around in FEMA camps or whatever with no outlet for one's passions/frustrations/anger/sadness/etc.
I mean, we already do this. It doesn't seem like an impossible task to expand/replicate it. The biggest hurdle, in my mind, is housing. Actual housing, not tents or shit.
As far as the costs go, well, maybe we should've thought of that before toppling governments while not having any viable follow up strategy.
Something needs to be done, and the extreme positions - doing nothing or just letting them in after an initial vetting (because we all know how awesome we are at not letting people on terror watch lists in) - aren't realistic.
This current phase of the problem is our dummies' fault. The assholes need to learn to stop fucking around in other people's countries and focus on doing their jobs in their own countries for their own citizens' benefits.
The solution should be that the Western and Islamic countries that screwed things up in the war affected countries should have to fork over a minimum war reparation of $100,000 per person in those countries on a pro-rated basis of their involvement. Hell, Hulk Hogan got $125 million because someone showed his sex tapes. And then all muslims would be deported back to their home countries without exception.