RE: Proving God in 20 statements
April 1, 2016 at 11:30 pm
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2016 at 11:31 pm by Mudhammam.)
(April 1, 2016 at 3:23 am)robvalue Wrote:But to be fair, by evidence you mean phenomena that can be understood in terms of physics. ...Right? In other words, you beg the question that all important, or true, or relevant points are "scientific" in nature... Which is not a scientific claim. Do you think that there are any propositions which are categorically true and cannot be supported by evidence? If so (I think this is obviously the case, btw), to what should one make one appeal if not argumentation?(April 1, 2016 at 2:45 am)Mudhammam Wrote: As an aside, I think that one does interchangeably depend on the other.
Sure, to make a scientific point you need both arguments and evidence.
You can prove things within an abstract system using just arguments, but to demonstrate things to be (most likely) true about reality, it needs to be bolstered with evidence.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza