Mind is the brain?

[The Grand Nudger]

CTM would tell you that the human brain is the object of interest in the human system.  It's stuck with the evidence available, rather than your daydreams about matter-mind.  It's not the comp theory of fingers and toes.  Or the theory of nose mind.  Another "no shit" statement, regardless.  

That's a strange strawman.  You keep pretending I'm saying stuff has mind that I haven't said has it.  I'm saying the exact opposite: that much of the systems you are pointing to does NOT allow for mind, and that you aren't doing a sufficient job of establishing mindful systems.  Waving at the brain will never be sufficient, until you can show exactly what about the brain allows for mind.

I would gladly provide you with such an explanation as soon as you decide that comp systems exist.  What, btw, is supposed to be a strawman about the above?  

That's still what I'm saying.  Parts of the brain do not allow for mind, but since they are in the same approximate location, you wave toward the entire brain.  You might as well wave toward my entire bedroom.

How would you know?  In your estimation it's all matter-mind...and you won't even -allow- my definition of terms to begin explaining it from CTM.  So you tell me what parts you're referring to, because I fail to see how your statement could -possibly- be true in the case of matter-mind, and it certainly isn't true in CTM.

If you wanted to know where graphics came from, you wouldn't just wave your hand at a computer. You'd have to identify the graphics card, and explain what about it allowed for light patterns to be presented on your screen.  

Which would be trivially easy once we've established that comp systems do, in fact, exist. You don't get to talk about identification until you allow for identity. Until then, I'm gonna go with matter-graphics as an explanation. / shrugs

Unless you want to define "graphics" as "everything computers do," then you have to provide actual details.  Of course, you are pretty much doing that: defining "mind" as "everything brains do."  Either that, or you're aware your theory says very little about what neural systems allow for mind, and are just dodging the issue.

I'm not doing anything. I can't, until you decide that it's not all just stuff happening/physics after all. Until you can finally accept that your objections are insufficient, there can be no discussion of -any- comp system. How am I supposed to answer your questions if you will not allow me to identify, specify, or describe? Ask yourself that question.