(April 11, 2016 at 10:38 pm)Goosebump Wrote:(April 11, 2016 at 9:55 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I'd take an idiotic/annoying liberal civilization over a threat-to-my-health-and-safety conservative one, any day of the week.
I'm conflicted. I can envision a world where I'm a 120 year old man thanks to the super social programs enacted and I get fined out of my house/home for saying what's on my ancient, grew up in the 90's, addled mind because of politically correct programs enacted. If it hasn't happened earlier.
In this regard, I am somewhat Libertarian-leaning. It horrifies me when either side tries to use the power of government to punish people into behaving socially as they think makes for a "better world". I worry about going too far with gun restriction laws, for instance... and the notion of using force to go after people for what they say/wear (etc.) gives me the cold shivers.
That said, I find the conservatives who used the Drug War to silence the counterculture and minority rights groups, and spread decades of propaganda lies to fuel the rise of expensive, oversized, and militarized police units (while stuffing prisons full), who dismantled our environmental protection laws to suit the bottom lines of corporate donors at the expense of the health and safety of poor Americans (See Moore's article on what happened in Flint, Michigan, for instance: http://michaelmoore.com/10FactsOnFlint/) to be much, much worse.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
