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I Hate Presup
February 9, 2017 at 9:48 pm
Every few emails I get moron who has caught the Sye Ten bug and repeats his idiot arguments I'm sure you heard them.
Quote:Could you be wrong about everything you know?
Yes and so could they no matter how much they say otherwise
Quote:Could god reveal things in a way that can be certain
No because they starts with baseless assertion god exists .And even if he did how could you be certain what he says is something you can be certain of without first trusting it.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
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RE: I Hate Presup
February 9, 2017 at 11:12 pm
Yeah.
"We have all the answers so why bother with the questions?"
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: I Hate Presup
February 10, 2017 at 10:44 am
I hate Presuppositionalism. It's like someone used logic to dig a hole, climb into it, and pull it shut behind them.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: I Hate Presup
February 10, 2017 at 10:53 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2017 at 10:55 am by Whateverist.)
Do you yourself have conclusive reasons for rejecting pre sup or is your hatred held pre-suppositionally?
Nah, it just isn't something people should bring to the table of ideas when conversing with others. Sure we all have some beliefs which seem too basic to overturn given who we are. So what. Where that's the case one should simply recluse themselves from the discussion. If you have no points to make that are of a general enough nature that no one with out your basic beliefs would rightfully scoff, why bring them up? Of course, you could ask if everyone agrees for instance that "there is a reason for everything" or "nothing can come from nothing" or whatever it is that runs you. But if the answer is "no, I'm not convinced of that" then in the current group at least that belief is not relevant to the discussion. Your choices at that point are to find a different discussion topic within the group that all are interested to discuss, or go find a group within your own choir.
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RE: I Hate Presup
February 10, 2017 at 11:13 am
Presuppositionalists are all make-believe Pyrrhonists who try to baffle others with bullshit while they sneak their desert god through the back flap of the tent. I'd rather give hand jobs for spare change at the Greyhound station than waste my time arguing with them.