(April 13, 2016 at 12:57 pm)robvalue Wrote: So, no citations then to back up your probability statement. You're just interpreting what you think scientific ideas sound like they are saying.
Yes, that's a load of complete crap from WLC. He's just assuming his conclusions as usual. "Something can't come from nothing, because I say so. Oh, except where I reach the conclusion and then in fact something does come out of nothing."
He's a conman, he's a trickster, a liar and a fraud. He's too intelligent not to be aware of his own deception. I am sad he has so many people taken in.
Metaphysical truth my arse.
I'm a little surprised, that someone; such as yourself, that touts science constantly is so unaware of the big bang model of cosmology and the reasons that scientist believe it to be true about reality.
I also think that it is interesting, that you are supporting that something can begin to exist, without a cause or reason. And find it ironic, that you are demanding reason for this. This is a basic philosophical principle and key to science. You also seem to be denouncing inductive reasoning here, in which much of science, including evolution does not have a case, if you do so.
I think this is all sophism, and that much of what you said about Dr. Craig here, is merely self reflection.