RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 13, 2016 at 4:31 pm
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2016 at 4:36 pm by SteveII.
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(April 13, 2016 at 12:57 pm)robvalue Wrote: So, no citations then to back up your probability statement. You're just interpreting what you think scientific ideas sound like they are saying.
Yes, that's a load of complete crap from WLC. He's just assuming his conclusions as usual. "Something can't come from nothing, because I say so. Oh, except where I reach the conclusion and then in fact something does come out of nothing."
He's a conman, he's a trickster, a liar and a fraud. He's too intelligent not to be aware of his own deception. I am sad he has so many people taken in.
Metaphysical truth my arse.
Is it more likely than not that the universe had a beginning at the boundary of the singularity? The professionals believe the "big-bang" based theories best fit the most data. "The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the universe from the earliest known periods..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
I hear throughout your objections (here and other places) a series of terms that imply the argument is not sound. This seems to be the cool-aid that the various atheist boards share between themselves. WLC has notices this and gave a talk (linked further below). His opening paragraphs made me laugh.
"In my published work on the kalam cosmological argument, I always try to anticipate and respond to objections that might be raised against the argument, so that readers might be equipped to deal with them should someone bring them up in conversation.[1] I figured that I had basically dealt with virtually all the objections that critics might raise and that any further debate would be over the adequacy of my responses.
Alas, however, I discovered that I've been unsuccessful in covering all the bases! For what I've come to realize is that some objections are so squirrelly, so off the wall, so bad that I could never have anticipated them. These criticisms are not found in scholarly publications. Instead, they're found in popular critiques of the argument on the Internet and YouTube. Up to now, I've focused on the scholarly critiques of the argument and just ignored such popular criticisms because I figured they were so misguided that there was just no point in responding to them. But tonight I've chosen to use this opportunity to address the worst of them."
Objections So Bad I Couldn't Have Made Them Up
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/media/obj...de-them-up
Look through them. It seems yours are all there!!