(April 14, 2016 at 9:47 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(April 13, 2016 at 11:01 am)bennyboy Wrote: If mind isn't elemental, then how do non-mental systems when put together allow for mind? How does the universe "know" that system X is just stuff happening, and system Y is a mind?
Shifting the burden of proof doesn't make your position any more coherent. It simply creates an argument from ignorance. If I don't know the specifics of how stuff happening creates mind, that doesn't offer any more support to your own view. I believe that mind is a result of a specific set of processes in the brain. That I can't name those specific processes isn't evidence against them.
You don't get to claim "argument from ignorance" when someone claims you haven't established your idea. I've already stipulated that in a material monism, the mind has something to do with the brain. The question is whether at its most essential, the mind supervenes on structures, systems or processes that are unique only to brain-like structures, or whether they are more general.
If you agree with Rhythm, and you seem to, then it is a particular kind of complexity of information flow upon which mind supervenes. If you agree with me, and as usual nobody does (
), then the existence of mind isn't a supervenient property at all-- what supervenes on the brain is the particular organization of perceptions and experiences which is unique to human being.
